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PeerTube 1.0: A decentralized video hosting network, based on libre software

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Re: PeerTube 1.0: A decentralized video hosting network, based on libre software

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Good media hosts with all the fixins like CDNs, multiple formats, etc. are much needed on the fediverse. And iirc this project has been ongoing for at least a year, maybe more than two, so this isn't a rushed 1.0. Kudos for the persistence and contribution. Another win for ActivityPub!

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Re: PeerTube 1.0: A decentralized video hosting network, based on libre software

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So close, but ug [0]. A worthy effort (one I might pursue myself) is a self contained binary (or installer if I have to) that runs on Windows, daemonizes/service-izes itself w/ built in web server, dyn DNS's itself or other NAT punch approach, etc.

A laudable first step to be sure, but to decentralize we need to target desktops. Many have them at home and are willing to leave them on all day, especially content creators. And it needs to be as easy to setup and non-desktop-invasive as possible. So sqlite instead of postgres? In mem instead of redis? Built-in web server instead of nginx? Windows instead of not-Windows? UI instead of a bunch of scripts? Bandwidth concerns, now we can talk about the value of BT or similar, but lots of content has few enough users to leverage a home connection.

Or we can meet in the middle, find a quality hosting reseller, and have a UI that internally deploys containers/content for them for a couple bucks a month.

0 - https://github.com/Chocobozzz/PeerTube/blob/develop/support/...

Re: PeerTube 1.0: A decentralized video hosting network, based on libre software

#14

So close, but ug [0]. A worthy effort (one I might pursue myself) is a self contained binary (or installer if I have to) that runs on Windows, daemonizes/service-izes itself w/ built in web server, dyn DNS's itself or other NAT punch approach, etc. A laudable first step to be sure, but to decentralize we need to target desktops. Many have them at home and are willing to leave them on all day, especially content creat…

An omnibus Docker container is preferable, and could even be run from always-on home gateways and NAS devices instead of transient desktops.

Targeting desktops natively (and the development effort required) would be a bucket of sadness, and IMHO, a waste of time.

Re: PeerTube 1.0: A decentralized video hosting network, based on libre software

#15

I've been doing lots of research on video games and some other niche areas, it's staggering how much information is on YouTube and only on YouTube. There are millions of hours of super high quality user-generated content locked up in videos that can't be (or aren't) indexed properly, all of which are effectively owned and maintained by Google. The number of alternatives to youtube is approximately zero. No one wants…

Censorship seems to be the main driving force behind users looking at other platforms at the moment. That being said, unfortunately, without the ad model, there's minimal incentives for users to fully migrate to other platforms like Patreon (for instance). If any new platform that wants to come online and compete, it will have to integrate the ad-model to provide any kind of real incentives for the users.

Re: PeerTube 1.0: A decentralized video hosting network, based on libre software

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post #15

I've been doing lots of research on video games and some other niche areas, it's staggering how much information is on YouTube and only on YouTube. There are millions of hours of super high quality user-generated content locked up in videos that can't be (or aren't) indexed properly, all of which are effectively owned and maintained by Google. The number of alternatives to youtube is approximately zero. No one wants…

Censorship seems to be the main driving force behind users looking at other platforms at the moment. That being said, unfortunately, without the ad model, there's minimal incentives for users to fully migrate to other platforms like Patreon (for instance). If any new platform that wants to come online and compete, it will have to integrate the ad-model to provide any kind of real incentives for the users.

Patreon should become a supporter of PeerTube development when Youtube axes Patreon platform use entirely.

Re: PeerTube 1.0: A decentralized video hosting network, based on libre software

#17
post #15

I've been doing lots of research on video games and some other niche areas, it's staggering how much information is on YouTube and only on YouTube. There are millions of hours of super high quality user-generated content locked up in videos that can't be (or aren't) indexed properly, all of which are effectively owned and maintained by Google. The number of alternatives to youtube is approximately zero. No one wants…

Censorship seems to be the main driving force behind users looking at other platforms at the moment. That being said, unfortunately, without the ad model, there's minimal incentives for users to fully migrate to other platforms like Patreon (for instance). If any new platform that wants to come online and compete, it will have to integrate the ad-model to provide any kind of real incentives for the users.

Patreon is also censoring.

Re: PeerTube 1.0: A decentralized video hosting network, based on libre software

#18
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Censorship seems to be the main driving force behind users looking at other platforms at the moment. That being said, unfortunately, without the ad model, there's minimal incentives for users to fully migrate to other platforms like Patreon (for instance). If any new platform that wants to come online and compete, it will have to integrate the ad-model to provide any kind of real incentives for the users.

Patreon should become a supporter of PeerTube development when Youtube axes Patreon platform use entirely.

why/how would youtube axe Patreon platform use?

Re: PeerTube 1.0: A decentralized video hosting network, based on libre software

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Patreon should become a supporter of PeerTube development when Youtube axes Patreon platform use entirely.

why/how would youtube axe Patreon platform use?

Using Youtube for Patreon videos, generating costs for YT that don't have a revenue/monetization component.

https://www.polygon.com/2017/9/28/16380186/youtube-patreon-d...

https://mashable.com/2017/09/28/youtube-outside-links-partne...

Re: PeerTube 1.0: A decentralized video hosting network, based on libre software

#20
I like this project in it's concept, but I could never get the server to run properly.

I also have problems with the fact that the IPs of the watchers are publicly shared due to the nature of the beast (p2p sharing). I'd like something like this but where I could give the users the option of running directly off my server or p2p. Perhaps this is even possible and that I have not seen it yet.

It would be awesome if I could run my own "pod" with my let's plays and have it federated throughout the network. Currently I use google but without any form of monetisation as it's a hobby and I don't want to burden people with adds.

Knowing google though they probably show adds themselvs and/or penalise me in the search for not having the on.

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