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Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss reports

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Re: Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss reports

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post #7

They're absolutely garbage at this. When I was _forced_ into the windows 10 update, it went through the process and appeared to finish but didn't put my desktop back. No problem I figured, they put it somewhere. So I did a file search, found the desktop in a folder, moved it back to the desktop. A day later it self-restarted and _completed the update_, replacing the desktop with the now empty desktop folder. I went t…

I don't hope Microsoft dies, I just hope they realize how unreasonably stubborn they are being in forcefully shoving every new update of Windows down users' throats, and and that they then stop doing it.

Re: Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss reports

#13
Testing something like Windows/Windows updates at scale is hard. So bugs will happen. But deleting docs is gross.

I can imagine there was tense meeting somewhere in MS where the choice was made to stop the update. I would have liked to have been there...

Re: Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss reports

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Testing something like Windows/Windows updates at scale is hard. So bugs will happen. But deleting docs is gross. I can imagine there was tense meeting somewhere in MS where the choice was made to stop the update. I would have liked to have been there...

If you're a company the size of Microsoft, "hard" just means "expensive." There is certianly no question that Microsoft is able to produce Windows updates that do not have these problems. Apple has been doing automatic updates for years - but we don't hear similar stories coming from that camp, because they put in the necessary QA effort.

Re: Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss reports

#15
I hope they get it fixed quickly and I hope they listen to user feedback more... I just hope we don't go back into old ways of years between service packs. I for one enjoy the frequent fixes - much better than those "Service pack" years of having to deal with crap for so long.

Re: Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss reports

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They released a new version of LTSB (well, they call it LTSC now) just a few days ago, based on this last version. I made a clean installation today. en_windows_10_enterprise_ltsc_2019_x64_dvd_74865958.iso No Store, no Cortana, no Edge, Windows 7 calculator, no Candy Crush, no bullshit. Don't miss out. ;-)

Slight downside: apparently Office 365 won't support LTSC soon: https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/Windows-IT-Pro-Blog/C...

That only seems to affect Office 365 ProPlus, starting in 2020.

Re: Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss reports

#17
post #10

Is this incompetence the result of Microsoft being unable to retain decent engineers? I mean, who actually would want to work on the next Windows release? You’d have to be a masochist.

Well apple had that empty password bug on one release, everyone makes a mistake once in a while

Re: Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss reports

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post #5

Bizarre. I've seen something like this already in spring. A colleague lost all their documents, and calmly claimed it was probably "Windows Update". Apparently it is common knowledge in the office that Windows Update sometimes does that. I could never verify nor reproduce it, and chalked it up to "users say the darndest things". Files were simply restored from backup. Now I'm beginning to wonder if there was more to…

They released a new version of LTSB (well, they call it LTSC now) just a few days ago, based on this last version. I made a clean installation today. en_windows_10_enterprise_ltsc_2019_x64_dvd_74865958.iso No Store, no Cortana, no Edge, Windows 7 calculator, no Candy Crush, no bullshit. Don't miss out. ;-)

and most important of all: supported for 10 years (from release), so you can conceivably use this for a decade without any issues.

Re: Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss reports

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The whole user experience of installing Windows 10 is abysmal. Wife got a new laptop and I watched her to the initial setup. Stupid things like an "enter your pin" dialog that automatically opens another dialog that closes if you hit enter. So you quickly type your pin and hit enter and just see the dialog flash. Or the confusing "remove" button for the fingerprint scanner setup that just removes all of your fingerprints without confirmation. That's just one UI. It feels like some shitty enterprise software. Pathetic.

Re: Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss reports

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I did upgrade to Windows 10 1809 and fortunately didn't run into any issues. However, I suspect there is a memory leak somewhere. After running Visual Studio for a while, almost my entire system memory was eaten but the total sum of memory for the running programs don't add up to the amount of "In use" memory.
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