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Justice Department Sues to Stop California Net Neutrality Law

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Re: Justice Department Sues to Stop California Net Neutrality Law

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Sorry if I get some basic understanding of the law wrong but... Isn't this the same thing as regulating car emissions? Doesn't 822 only apply to providers in the state itself? Wouldn't it be that the telecoms are welcome to engage in another method of end-customer billing in other states? What am I missing?

California's rules are explicitly allowed by the clean air act, otherwise they would not be okay.

See, e.g, https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/7416

and

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/7402

and

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/7410

Re: Justice Department Sues to Stop California Net Neutrality Law

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post #4

Sorry if I get some basic understanding of the law wrong but... Isn't this the same thing as regulating car emissions? Doesn't 822 only apply to providers in the state itself? Wouldn't it be that the telecoms are welcome to engage in another method of end-customer billing in other states? What am I missing?

> Isn't this the same thing as regulating car emissions? My understanding is that federal law gives states the option of either following the EPA rules or the CARB rules.

Nah, the clean air act specifically is meant to be cooperative with the states and for the states to retain some authority.

Re: Justice Department Sues to Stop California Net Neutrality Law

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What's odd too is that Washington State passed a net neutrality law and I don't see any FCC response to block it. So why only California? https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/kzkx83/which-stat...

California has been especially committed to challenging some of the administration's various injustices. Trump has made California one of his symbolic, non-white boogeymen in order to manipulate his "base."

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/05/us/politics/trump-califor...

Re: Justice Department Sues to Stop California Net Neutrality Law

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Sorry if I get some basic understanding of the law wrong but... Isn't this the same thing as regulating car emissions? Doesn't 822 only apply to providers in the state itself? Wouldn't it be that the telecoms are welcome to engage in another method of end-customer billing in other states? What am I missing?

> Like California’s auto emissions laws that forced automakers to adopt the standards for all production, the state’s new net neutrality rules could push broadband providers to apply the same rules to other states.

I think you're right, the motives are very similar.

> Attorney General Jeff Sessions said that California’s net neutrality law was illegal because Congress granted the federal government, through the F.C.C., the sole authority to create rules for broadband internet providers. “States do not regulate interstate commerce — the federal government does,” Mr. Sessions said in a statement.

I thought Republicans were pro-states rights and limited government? How does their position on this jive with their ideology?

Re: Justice Department Sues to Stop California Net Neutrality Law

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So was this lawsuit prepared by a lobbyist’s law firm? How on earth would DoJ be ready this quickly?

Nope. US Attorneys but this was passed awhile ago so they had time to prepare a filing.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1097306/downl...

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Net "neutrality" protects competitors from competition. Good on Jeff Sessions.

I've never understood this style of comment. You say you agree and make a claim, but might you care to substantiate it or otherwise elaborate on your point of view? I am not saying you are wrong, just, I can't actually engage with the comment here because it doesn't provide anything to engage with.

Re: Justice Department Sues to Stop California Net Neutrality Law

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post #4

Sorry if I get some basic understanding of the law wrong but... Isn't this the same thing as regulating car emissions? Doesn't 822 only apply to providers in the state itself? Wouldn't it be that the telecoms are welcome to engage in another method of end-customer billing in other states? What am I missing?

> Like California’s auto emissions laws that forced automakers to adopt the standards for all production, the state’s new net neutrality rules could push broadband providers to apply the same rules to other states. I think you're right, the motives are very similar. > Attorney General Jeff Sessions said that California’s net neutrality law was illegal because Congress granted the federal government, through the F.C.C…

The GOP does not have an ideology. Anything you could name as a position of their ideology they will (and did) betray for either "winning" or at the behest of their corporate masters.

Re: Justice Department Sues to Stop California Net Neutrality Law

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What's odd too is that Washington State passed a net neutrality law and I don't see any FCC response to block it. So why only California? https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/kzkx83/which-stat...

Washington is also in the 9th circuit:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Court_of_Appeals...

A ruling on Cali's law in the 9th would impact WA as well.

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