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Re: The Scottish Register of Tartans

#11

Post by teh_klev »

arethuza wrote: post #7
ggm wrote: post #5

The good thing about this, is it puts tartans into a modern IPR context and sheds the Walter Scott fake history. It's no different to burberry trademarking it's red flash check. All the clan/sept/hunting/dress stuff is a giant fantasy of post Regency construction. Harris Tweed on the other hand, is much more a "thing" and deserves its restricted mark for heritage reasons. Cornish sailors knitting patterns next!

Yeah - a lot of traditions were "revived" (i.e. invented) for the visit of King George IV to Scotland: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visit_of_King_George_IV_to_Sco... Which is ironic given the almost ethnic cleaning levels of treatment given to Highlanders and their culture following the '45 and the later Clearances: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Culloden#Aftermath https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highland_Cle…

Here's a map showing the occupation of Scotland by the British Army after the '45. It's quite incredible:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AldSMUTTjTtqxQp1kDhjRKqjXNp...

Re: The Scottish Register of Tartans

#13

Post by orthur_b »

That is a weird way of paying by credit card they have:

In order for the customer to make a payment by credit/debit card we need:

1) the card number

2) the card expiry date;

3) the issue number if Maestro;

4) the last 3 digits of the card security number (on the reverse of the credit card);

5) the cardholder's name and initials as displayed on the card; and

6) the cardholder's address. Please note that all of these details are essential. Please also provide your reference (NRS/TR/Tartan Name).

Please telephone +44 (0)131 535 1395 to make payment by credit card. https://www.tartanregister.gov.uk/fees

Re: The Scottish Register of Tartans

#14

Post by jstanley »

pulisse wrote: post #6

Out of curiosity I checked out the "New Tartans" page. The most recent item is: https://www.tartanregister.gov.uk/tartanDetails?ref=12260 which, sadly, seems to have been registered on behalf of a white supremacist cult.

Why is that sad? It's a good thing that anybody can register a tartan regardless of whether they are "desirable".

Re: The Scottish Register of Tartans

#15

Post by otabdeveloper1 »

pulisse wrote: post #6

Out of curiosity I checked out the "New Tartans" page. The most recent item is: https://www.tartanregister.gov.uk/tartanDetails?ref=12260 which, sadly, seems to have been registered on behalf of a white supremacist cult.

If it was a black supremacist cult, would that have been OK?

Re: The Scottish Register of Tartans

#16

Post by hrnnnnnn »

B1FF_PSUVM wrote: post #8
ggm wrote: post #5

The good thing about this, is it puts tartans into a modern IPR context and sheds the Walter Scott fake history. It's no different to burberry trademarking it's red flash check. All the clan/sept/hunting/dress stuff is a giant fantasy of post Regency construction. Harris Tweed on the other hand, is much more a "thing" and deserves its restricted mark for heritage reasons. Cornish sailors knitting patterns next!

Well, sugar and palm oil bottlers Nutella have just cranked up the computers to provide unique designs in every jar, e.g. https://www.nutella.com/en/au/uniquenutella (heavy, possibly slow) Pampered, we are.

Offtopic, but I made my own "Nutella" the other day from hazelnuts, cocoa powder and dates, and it was delicious.

Re: The Scottish Register of Tartans

#17

Post by teh_klev »

orthur_b wrote: post #13

That is a weird way of paying by credit card they have: In order for the customer to make a payment by credit/debit card we need: 1) the card number 2) the card expiry date; 3) the issue number if Maestro; 4) the last 3 digits of the card security number (on the reverse of the credit card); 5) the cardholder's name and initials as displayed on the card; and 6) the cardholder's address. Please note that all of these d…

What seems weird about those details? Seems to cover all the things you need to make a payment over the phone.

Re: The Scottish Register of Tartans

#18

Post by arethuza »

teh_klev wrote: post #11
arethuza wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah - a lot of traditions were "revived" (i.e. invented) for the visit of King George IV to Scotland: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visit_of_King_George_IV_to_Sco... Which is ironic given the almost ethnic cleaning levels of treatment given to Highlanders and their culture following the '45 and the later Clearances: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Culloden#Aftermath https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highland_Cle…

Here's a map showing the occupation of Scotland by the British Army after the '45. It's quite incredible: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AldSMUTTjTtqxQp1kDhjRKqjXNp...

The number of towns that start with "Fort" is a bit of a give away (although some of these were from earlier rebellions) - places like Fort George are pretty impressive and well worth visiting (and it's still an Army base):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_George,_Highland

Re: The Scottish Register of Tartans

#19

Post by daleharvey »

jstanley wrote: post #14
pulisse wrote: post #6

Out of curiosity I checked out the "New Tartans" page. The most recent item is: https://www.tartanregister.gov.uk/tartanDetails?ref=12260 which, sadly, seems to have been registered on behalf of a white supremacist cult.

Why is that sad? It's a good thing that anybody can register a tartan regardless of whether they are "desirable".

The fact that white supremist cults exist is saddening for a lot of people, especially when having to share space / be reminded of them. Interesting usage of the air quotes you have there.

Re: The Scottish Register of Tartans

#20

Post by oytis »

teh_klev wrote: post #17
orthur_b wrote: post #13

That is a weird way of paying by credit card they have: In order for the customer to make a payment by credit/debit card we need: 1) the card number 2) the card expiry date; 3) the issue number if Maestro; 4) the last 3 digits of the card security number (on the reverse of the credit card); 5) the cardholder's name and initials as displayed on the card; and 6) the cardholder's address. Please note that all of these d…

What seems weird about those details? Seems to cover all the things you need to make a payment over the phone.

Isn't paying with credit card over phone weird enough? Anyone eavesdropping on the phone line gets full access to your card details, not to say that the person on the other side of the line gets it.

Normally I would expect an https-protected webform of a trusted payment processor.

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