Linux devs ponder pulling contributions over new Code of Conduct

Post by dagw » Thu, Sep 27, 2018, 2:50 PM UTC

JoshuaAshton wrote: post #7

RobLach wrote: post #6

“The question not to get hung up on is what any individual's choice in this matter says about their attitude towards, say, historically underrepresented minorities. It is perfectly cononsistent to be pro-tolerance and pro-inclusion while believing this subculture ought to be all about producing good code without regard to who is offended by the process.” I don't follow the logic. A hostile environment would negativel…

If you read into it, the new Code of Conduct actually may actually do more to ostracize people. Notable contributors have already been harassed on Twitter and other platforms because apparently their actions outside of the Linux Kernel and LKML deem them breaking it, and people love to attack people for breaking rules. There was also no-one really asking for a new Code of Conduct, and things weren't really broken. Pe…

Post by JoeAltmaier » Thu, Sep 27, 2018, 7:52 PM UTC

scotty79 wrote: post #12

JoeAltmaier wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For some values of 'good'? That's the whole issue.

Wait, so someone's code can be bad because he is a bad person? Even though if you didn't know he is a bad person his code would be just as good as written by good person?

Post by JoshuaAshton » Thu, Sep 27, 2018, 10:25 PM UTC

dagw wrote: post #11

JoshuaAshton wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you read into it, the new Code of Conduct actually may actually do more to ostracize people. Notable contributors have already been harassed on Twitter and other platforms because apparently their actions outside of the Linux Kernel and LKML deem them breaking it, and people love to attack people for breaking rules. There was also no-one really asking for a new Code of Conduct, and things weren't really broken. Pe…

The Code of Conduct also has a few questionable statements, such as not judging people based on their technical abilities, Have you actually read the CoC? Because I just did, and I couldn't find that line.

Post by dagw » Thu, Sep 27, 2018, 10:46 PM UTC

JoshuaAshton wrote: post #15

dagw wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Code of Conduct also has a few questionable statements, such as not judging people based on their technical abilities, Have you actually read the CoC? Because I just did, and I couldn't find that line.

"In the interest of fostering an open and welcoming environment, we as contributors and maintainers pledge to making participation in our project and our community a harassment-free experience for everyone, regardless of [...] level of experience"