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Telltale Employees Left Stunned by Company Closure, No Severance

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Re: Telltale Employees Left Stunned by Company Closure, No Severance

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I might be misreading/misinterpreting..what was the reason for the closure? The article mentions it was financial but it didn’t seem absolute.

Another article states that only 2 games were actually profitable. Minecraft Story Mode, and one of the Walking Dead games.

All others were failed financially and did not recoup costs.

Re: Telltale Employees Left Stunned by Company Closure, No Severance

#12
If you think about employment as a business transaction, then you should insist on "Cash Up Front", e.g. signing bonus, higher salary, or immediate stock ownership to offset your personal risk. Joining a company is more of a risk to you as an employee than it is to them in hiring you.

Basically it comes down to asking for "Cash Up Front". Expecting a cash settlement on the backend of a failed business transaction is fraught with perils of not getting your investment back in the company. And asking for severance is no different.

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The point of severance is to give ex-employees a reason not to sue. However there is left point in protecting from lawsuits when there will be nothing left that can be sued. However I suspect that not paying out owed PTO may be a different story...

It's really interesting to read this perspective on what severance is in the US, because in my country it definitely is just a right everyone has so that they can land on their feet.

In the US, we have unemployment compensation insurance for that purpose. I believe you can collect unemployment even if the employer is insolvent, because it's pre-paid by the employer, and comes out of a collective fund.

As I understand it, a severance usually involves the employee signing some sort of agreement.

Re: Telltale Employees Left Stunned by Company Closure, No Severance

#14

I might be misreading/misinterpreting..what was the reason for the closure? The article mentions it was financial but it didn’t seem absolute.

Another article states that only 2 games were actually profitable. Minecraft Story Mode, and one of the Walking Dead games. All others were failed financially and did not recoup costs.

The GoT game was likely a huge money sink for them, super expensive franchise and they had to pay for the likeness as well as some of the voice acting of some relatively pretty big actors.

Re: Telltale Employees Left Stunned by Company Closure, No Severance

#15
The worst part for many of these people is that our country still links health insurance with your employer. It is bad enough to suddenly lose your job and primary source of income, but that type of thing is often unavoidable when a company goes belly up. However only getting a week's notice before all your health insurance benefits disappear is the type of thing that just shouldn't happen in this country.

Re: Telltale Employees Left Stunned by Company Closure, No Severance

#16

I might be misreading/misinterpreting..what was the reason for the closure? The article mentions it was financial but it didn’t seem absolute.

Another article states that only 2 games were actually profitable. Minecraft Story Mode, and one of the Walking Dead games. All others were failed financially and did not recoup costs.

I dunno why I was surprised by this. The company must have been super mismanaged. I know that it's a lot of hard work to put together a game, especially one with an outdated engine, but I'm really surprised that the games Telltale was putting out required such a big crew.

Re: Telltale Employees Left Stunned by Company Closure, No Severance

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Is severance normal at a startup or a game studio? I would think first priority would be contractual obligations (payroll, contractual severance, vendors, etc.) and then only then severance.

I don't think severance is normal or expected of any business teetering on insolvency.

In my experience, severance (as part of your employment agreement) is not normal or expected for any job in the USA. I’ve been working for decades and have never seen even a hint of it in any employer’s benefits info. Severance is something only big shot executives get.

Re: Telltale Employees Left Stunned by Company Closure, No Severance

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Anyone know what the unemployment benefits are like in CA?

In WA state, "Unemployment benefits are made available through taxes paid by your former employer(s) to partially replace your regular earnings and help you meet expenses while you look for another job."

Not sure what the situation is in CA but I'd hope that, in the absence of a severance package, there's something else that can help them land cleanly here...

Re: Telltale Employees Left Stunned by Company Closure, No Severance

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This studio closure hits a little close to me, since I know a few former employees:

- They really did not see a full studio closure coming so suddenly. Yes, they were aware that they were struggling, but the 25% staff reduction was supposed to keep the studio sustainable.

- They were in the planning stages for an original IP, their new leadership realized too late that expensive IP licenses were unsustainable.

- Their frantic development pace meant that they their engine was a patchwork of features cobbled together over the years, and not enough resources to rework it, despite their audiences stating that they didn't care enough to fix it. This made development a lot more painful than it should have been. They finally ditched it for Unity, but again, much too late.

- They were getting ready to move into a new office building. That's how in the dark everyone at the company was kept.

- All of these actions were caused by incompetent management, their staff was and still is amazingly talented.

Re: Telltale Employees Left Stunned by Company Closure, No Severance

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Is severance normal at a startup or a game studio? I would think first priority would be contractual obligations (payroll, contractual severance, vendors, etc.) and then only then severance.

I don't think severance is normal or expected of any business teetering on insolvency.

My father has received severance - not once, but twice from Kodak Canada. The first time was during their bankruptcy, the second time was because they cost-optimized most of the senior people out of his project.
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