Please, Google, fix those mistakes soon, and avoid a PR fiasco.
google seems too big to fail. what are you going to do? start searching with yahoo?
Am I logged in or not? GDPR case study on the example of Chrome browser change
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#12I think that currently pretty much every service, device and website violates the GDPR. The GDPR requires consent or some other legitimate reason to store data about a person. I see dark patterns everywhere. I never give consent. But I get tracked to death everywhere all the time. Even before I touch anything on a website, it plants dozens of cookies on my machine. But cookies are not even the problem. Fingerprinting…
The user has the option to not get through the "pile of nonsense" and just close the website. The fact that the user does not should tell you something. Unless you think every website should force the user to go through a 15 minute webinar to help them specifically understand privacy policies before letting them browse the website?
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#13Paging Max Schrems.
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#14I don't understand why the Chrome team is picking this hill to die on- their team (managers and developers) are all over twitter and reddit trying to explain the privacy violations away as if the people upset about this are just not understanding what's going on. I really expect this change to push a lot of people away from Chrome, and frankly I wouldn't be surprised if it started opening up more antitrust possibilit…
> I don’t understand why the Chrome team is picking this hill to die on
Because they’re not “dying on a hill” at all, because nobody cares. Nobody outside Hacker News and Twitter infosec people only followed by other Twitter infosec people cares about this.
> I really expect this change to push a lot of people away from chrome
Care to bet on that? Because I would happily take the opposite side of that bet. I think the feature will stay and after a few months we will see absolutely no change in Chrome’s usage statistics.
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#15Please, Google, fix those mistakes soon, and avoid a PR fiasco.
google seems too big to fail. what are you going to do? start searching with yahoo?
More like start searching with DuckDuckGo, use an alternate email service such as Fastmail, Protonmail, etc., and use Firefox.
By the way, what's an alternate email service the HN users recommend?
Re: Am I logged in or not? GDPR case study on the example of Chrome browser change
#16I don't understand why the Chrome team is picking this hill to die on- their team (managers and developers) are all over twitter and reddit trying to explain the privacy violations away as if the people upset about this are just not understanding what's going on. I really expect this change to push a lot of people away from Chrome, and frankly I wouldn't be surprised if it started opening up more antitrust possibilit…
> I don’t understand why the Chrome team is picking this hill to die on Because they’re not “dying on a hill” at all, because nobody cares. Nobody outside Hacker News and Twitter infosec people only followed by other Twitter infosec people cares about this. > I really expect this change to push a lot of people away from chrome Care to bet on that? Because I would happily take the opposite side of that bet. I think th…
Sad but true. People don't care about this stuff, in general.
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#17I don't understand why the Chrome team is picking this hill to die on- their team (managers and developers) are all over twitter and reddit trying to explain the privacy violations away as if the people upset about this are just not understanding what's going on. I really expect this change to push a lot of people away from Chrome, and frankly I wouldn't be surprised if it started opening up more antitrust possibilit…
I personally know people who think they are signing into Chrome when they sign into google.com. Maybe the Chrome team is right about their larger user base?
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#18I think that currently pretty much every service, device and website violates the GDPR. The GDPR requires consent or some other legitimate reason to store data about a person. I see dark patterns everywhere. I never give consent. But I get tracked to death everywhere all the time. Even before I touch anything on a website, it plants dozens of cookies on my machine. But cookies are not even the problem. Fingerprinting…
Anecdotally, pretty much every developer I've talked to about GDPR says in one way or another, their company has some sort of GDPR violation.
It's pretty much the same story every time, there was a big scramble to fix any clear violations, but because GDPR was a bit vague, there are a lot of gray area violations that are still being cleaned up.
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#19Re: Am I logged in or not? GDPR case study on the example of Chrome browser change
#20I don't understand why the Chrome team is picking this hill to die on- their team (managers and developers) are all over twitter and reddit trying to explain the privacy violations away as if the people upset about this are just not understanding what's going on. I really expect this change to push a lot of people away from Chrome, and frankly I wouldn't be surprised if it started opening up more antitrust possibilit…
Not that I want to advocate for Google, but I imagine you could create a Firefox extension that works something like that into Firefox's sync mechanism. It sounds like they're scanning a cookie and then using that to change some other aspect of the browser; unless they've also added some stuff that only Chrome could recognise and work with.
Now I've done making an excuse for it, I think it's a shame that Microsoft fucked up so bad with IE that both Edge and Safari face an uphill struggle. They're both pretty decent browsers that are kind to your battery and aren't bloated with features you're unlikely to ever use.
The extension support is fairly poor for both but at the same time, that's not exactly a bad thing. You browse the web with them and that's more or less it.