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World's Richest Man: 'Charity Doesn't Solve Anything'

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Re: World's Richest Man: 'Charity Doesn't Solve Anything'

#11
I'm bemused by him implying that charity doesn't create employment or foster entrepreneurism amongst the poor.

It surely can't be seriously argued that wealth is better channelled through a single person's business empire representing nearly half of the country's stock exchange and 90% of its telecoms provision...

Re: World's Richest Man: 'Charity Doesn't Solve Anything'

#13
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Not a huge fan of Slim based on what I've heard, but I mostly agree with him on this. Makes me wonder though, what he's doing holding on to tens of billions in wealth if he could be building businesses and creating jobs for the poor instead. It makes it sound like "Business is better than charity, but I'd rather just be rich"

Are his billions in cash, or is his net value based on stock holdings, private investments, etc.?

Does it matter?

Re: World's Richest Man: 'Charity Doesn't Solve Anything'

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post #13
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are his billions in cash, or is his net value based on stock holdings, private investments, etc.?

Does it matter?

Presumably it would affect the amount he is actually able to immediately use to support those in need.

Re: World's Richest Man: 'Charity Doesn't Solve Anything'

#15
microcredit seems hopeful: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grameen_Bank

While the love of profit can be evil, if a business is actually creating value (eg. a windmill saves the labour of hand-milling flour; division of labour; technology in general, including methods of organizing labour), there's an opportunity for the bigger pie thereby created to benefit everyone.

Just shifting money around (which includes theft as well as charity) doesn't help except in temporary emergencies.

Re: World's Richest Man: 'Charity Doesn't Solve Anything'

#16
post #9

Not a huge fan of Slim based on what I've heard, but I mostly agree with him on this. Makes me wonder though, what he's doing holding on to tens of billions in wealth if he could be building businesses and creating jobs for the poor instead. It makes it sound like "Business is better than charity, but I'd rather just be rich"

Rich in irony as well -- Slim's purchase of Telmex, the state-controlled telephone monopoly, meant that he could stifle competition and charge exorbitant rates. That's pretty much as far as you can get from encouraging employment for the poor.

Not to mention the purchase was allegedly laden with government kickbacks and various forms of corruption.

Re: World's Richest Man: 'Charity Doesn't Solve Anything'

#17

I can buy the argument that just shoveling huge amounts of aid to people doesn't fix anything long-term. But it's not solely a decision between that and no charity. He mentions employment, which often benefits from having a stock of not-yet-exploited research to commercialize (SV firms do a lot of innovation, but they also do a lot of commercialization of stuff for which the early-stage R&D was done in academia, at g…

they also do a lot of commercialization of stuff for which the early-stage R&D was done in academia, at government research labs, etc.

So they turn it from something of theoretical value to something that actually improves people's lives--to the point that they're willing to part with money to have it? That seems to add a lot more utility on the margin. Of course, it wouldn't mean anything if there weren't inventions to subsidize.

Re: World's Richest Man: 'Charity Doesn't Solve Anything'

#18
I think about this in regards to Mr. Gates.

He amassed such a huge fortune by building walls around his software, limiting people's potential in a way.

Was it necessary? Did proprietary software need to happen to spur innovation? What about his uncompetitive practices?

I end up wondering what the balance of 'good' would be in the world if instead of taking everything he could, he had allowed others to grow and shared his source more. We wouldn't have the Gates foundation's fight against malaria, but we might have a more innovative and open global computing culture, and who knows what that would have meant.

Re: World's Richest Man: 'Charity Doesn't Solve Anything'

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post #14
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does it matter?

Presumably it would affect the amount he is actually able to immediately use to support those in need.

He's the richest man in the world. He has enough liquid assets to aggressively pursue charitable giving if he wants to.

Re: World's Richest Man: 'Charity Doesn't Solve Anything'

#20
I don't place a lot of value on Carlos Slim's advice. His vast fortune has basically been a result of his ability to practice regulatory arbitrage and own a monopoly (and stifle competition) in Mexico, a country with a highly inefficient governance system.

If the political system over there ever became really functional, his empire would be broken apart and much of his wealth would contract.

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