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It’s eating fat that makes you fat, new mouse study suggests

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Re: It’s eating fat that makes you fat, new mouse study suggests

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Post by SketchySeaBeast »

Flozzin wrote: post #8
Filligree wrote: post #2

...going against recent studies, and backing the otherwise-disproven science of the fifties. I quit. Don't make me look at these articles unless there's at least an N>10 meta-study.

It's rather ridiculous overall. The more 'studies' I read, the less I take them seriously. If you don't like the result of any study, wait 2 years and you will have a handful of studies disproving them. It seems like every few years we bounce back and forth between if alcohol and coffee are good or bad for you. I'm not sure if these issues are with the methodology in the studies, special interests wanting certain res…

The problem isn't this study, it's the reporting. We were initially taught that science IS truth, so every new study that was irresponsibly disseminated was believed. Now we've become so jaded by all these studies that we believe none of them (unless it follows our own prejudices). And unfortunately the news is built on trying to make things interesting - reporting the current scientific consensus just isn't news worthy. "This just in: Earth still flat." is much less interesting than "Watch this Californian kook launch himself into Space to prove the Earth is flat." or "Drinking straws - are they inseminating dolphins with reptilian DNA?"

Re: It’s eating fat that makes you fat, new mouse study suggests

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Post by YeGoblynQueenne »

Filligree wrote: post #2

...going against recent studies, and backing the otherwise-disproven science of the fifties. I quit. Don't make me look at these articles unless there's at least an N>10 meta-study.

>> ...going against recent studies, and backing the otherwise-disproven science of the fifties.

A handful of studies that find different results to a majority of studies to date do not "disprove" the majority results. Not even if that handful of studies is more recent. Especially if those more recent studies are few among many, also recent, that confirm the "science of the fifites".

I understand it's hard to know who to trust, like one of the responding comments says but here's a rule-of-thumb: don't listen to your gut, listen to the majority opinion of the experts.

... because "your gut" will typically be strongly biased towards discounting evidence you don't like (e.g. because it tells you not to eat the things you crave in large quntities).

Re: It’s eating fat that makes you fat, new mouse study suggests

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Post by belltaco »

Interesting result:

> With up to around 50%-60% fat in the diet, the mice ate more food and put on more weight. However, at higher levels of fat they gained less weight. A mouse eating 80% fat in its diet increased in weight by about the same amount as one eating 30% fat. We don’t know exactly why, only that on these super high-fat diets the mice consumed fewer calories and didn’t gain as much weight.

Re: It’s eating fat that makes you fat, new mouse study suggests

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Post by honr »

Please kindly cut the BS and use the link and title of the study. The magazine it's published in seems to be the second highest impact magazine of its field (sorry I haven't done research in cellular biology to know the magazine well). So, the study is probably reasonable. The click-baity artistic interpretation of the study is what tarnishes this and numerous other works.

"Dietary fat, but not protein or carbohydrate, regulates energy intake and causes adiposity in mice."

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S155041311...

Re: It’s eating fat that makes you fat, new mouse study suggests

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Post by jstandard »

teilo wrote: post #9

The vanguard of the 50s is going to keep at this until they are all dead. It doesn't matter how much counter-evidence is accumulated. They are invested in their fat hypothesis, and will not give up. Meanwhile, aside from the growing volume of supporting studied, anyone who has tried a low-sugar high-fat diet knows that eating fat makes you want to eat less, and not more.

Were the authors of this recent study the same ones releasing results in the 50s?

From what I can tell is these are recent scientists conducting a study in Beijing with potentially disconfirming evidence of your claim.

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