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Re: Brute Force Incognito Browsing

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I use Firefox Focus on my mobile devices. It blocks trackers and you can easily delete your history and cookies. https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/focus

Note: it's packaged on F-Droid as Firefox Klar, the German version, but the name is the only difference as far as I can tell.

https://f-droid.org/en/packages/org.mozilla.klar/

Re: Brute Force Incognito Browsing

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I have two use cases requiring private browsing, and dealing with both of them is very annoying.

On one hand, I don't want to be tracked. Disabling cookies in this case is fine, because if I open my webmail then all I do afterwards is tracked, courtesy of analytics code. On the other hand, disallowing cookies leads to all the problems mentioned in the post.

I wish there was a feature "keep multiple tabs, but cookies are not shared between them". Currently I manage with a combination of Firefox extensions and using two browsers at the time. But I wish it was easier.

Re: Brute Force Incognito Browsing

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I have two use cases requiring private browsing, and dealing with both of them is very annoying. On one hand, I don't want to be tracked. Disabling cookies in this case is fine, because if I open my webmail then all I do afterwards is tracked, courtesy of analytics code. On the other hand, disallowing cookies leads to all the problems mentioned in the post. I wish there was a feature "keep multiple tabs, but cookies…

> "keep multiple tabs, but cookies are not shared between them"

That's how Safari does it. It can be a little awkward, in that [eg] if you log into HN, then open a comments page in a new tab, you'll need to log in again -- but I think it's better than Chrome's approach.

There's a middle ground that seems like it'd be the best of both worlds — sharing things between multiple private tabs, but not multiple private windows.

Re: Brute Force Incognito Browsing

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I have two use cases requiring private browsing, and dealing with both of them is very annoying. On one hand, I don't want to be tracked. Disabling cookies in this case is fine, because if I open my webmail then all I do afterwards is tracked, courtesy of analytics code. On the other hand, disallowing cookies leads to all the problems mentioned in the post. I wish there was a feature "keep multiple tabs, but cookies…

There's a third use case. A use case that most people use it for...

Developing web apps and avoiding caching problems, obviously.

Re: Brute Force Incognito Browsing

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I have two use cases requiring private browsing, and dealing with both of them is very annoying. On one hand, I don't want to be tracked. Disabling cookies in this case is fine, because if I open my webmail then all I do afterwards is tracked, courtesy of analytics code. On the other hand, disallowing cookies leads to all the problems mentioned in the post. I wish there was a feature "keep multiple tabs, but cookies…

Aren't you just describing Firefox container tabs?

Re: Brute Force Incognito Browsing

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I have two use cases requiring private browsing, and dealing with both of them is very annoying. On one hand, I don't want to be tracked. Disabling cookies in this case is fine, because if I open my webmail then all I do afterwards is tracked, courtesy of analytics code. On the other hand, disallowing cookies leads to all the problems mentioned in the post. I wish there was a feature "keep multiple tabs, but cookies…

What Firefox extensions are you using? Check out Multi Account Containers on Firefox if you haven't already. It fulfills all my privacy requirements when paired with uBlock Origin and Privacy Badger. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account...

Re: Brute Force Incognito Browsing

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My main use case of private browsing is to avoid having to agree to the ubiquitous tracking websites demand, when they use every dark pattern in the book to make opting out hell. A private session can let me agree and shrug it off.

I do wish Firefox especially, as it positions itself as the users champion, would make their 'private' or persistent containered mode standard, with an option to whitelist and opt out for selected trusted sites.

Re: Brute Force Incognito Browsing

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My main use case of private browsing is to avoid having to agree to the ubiquitous tracking websites demand, when they use every dark pattern in the book to make opting out hell. A private session can let me agree and shrug it off. I do wish Firefox especially, as it positions itself as the users champion, would make their 'private' or persistent containered mode standard, with an option to whitelist and opt out for…

Doesn't that assume that the only way they track your data is with cookies? Perhaps by agreeing you are also allowing them to track you based on browser fingerprint / IP address so private browsing wouldn't be fullproof for this use case?
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