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Mastodon 2.5 released

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Re: Mastodon 2.5 released

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The broad approach to social networking presented by Mastodon and other federated networks is "spend your time/resources on funding the network instead of paying someone else much less to do it." It wont "work" for the same reason everyone doesn't host their own email service. It flies in the face of a broader cultural movement we have: specialization of labor. For instance, the solution to content moderation and har…

The effort required to keep a federated service running is a fraction of its total user base. EG; You don't see most people running their own IRC servers. A small percentage puts in the time for everyone else.

Re: Mastodon 2.5 released

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post #6

The broad approach to social networking presented by Mastodon and other federated networks is "spend your time/resources on funding the network instead of paying someone else much less to do it." It wont "work" for the same reason everyone doesn't host their own email service. It flies in the face of a broader cultural movement we have: specialization of labor. For instance, the solution to content moderation and har…

>> It wont "work" for the same reason everyone doesn't host their own email service. It flies in the face of a broader cultural movement we have: specialization of labor.

Define work. By many valid metrics, it's already a resounding success.

Re: Mastodon 2.5 released

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post #9

So tweets are "toots" in Mastodon. Could it be that extinct mastodons grunted or growled instead of tooting? I would rather bark, bleat, caw, croak, howl, quack or screech. Toot? Nah. Too many associations with musical fruits.

Starting fights with other users is known as "tusking".

Having a wildly popular toot get boosted all over the place is "going woolly".

A server going down for good is an "extinction event".

https://mastodon.social/@nolan/1522550

I think it's all very cute.

Re: Mastodon 2.5 released

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Today I tried another software for the fediverse: pleroma.

So far the fediverse isn't for me. I don't want to join an existent instance. I don't want to run a large project like Mastodon.

And pleroma looked about right for me. But it's currently only for insiders. (I'm using Linux since the 1990s and have installed different news and mail servers. Maybe my patience isn't what it used to be but I don't have any plans on trying pleroma again soon.)

All the other projects are either in a very early stage or use technology I trust less than C News.

Re: Mastodon 2.5 released

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post #9

So tweets are "toots" in Mastodon. Could it be that extinct mastodons grunted or growled instead of tooting? I would rather bark, bleat, caw, croak, howl, quack or screech. Toot? Nah. Too many associations with musical fruits.

You could YIFF! on yiff.life, if you prefer. A lot of instances change the verb.

Re: Mastodon 2.5 released

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post #6

The broad approach to social networking presented by Mastodon and other federated networks is "spend your time/resources on funding the network instead of paying someone else much less to do it." It wont "work" for the same reason everyone doesn't host their own email service. It flies in the face of a broader cultural movement we have: specialization of labor. For instance, the solution to content moderation and har…

Then why are there so many phpBB implementations still running and incredibly active?

I sometimes think the same way you do, but then I google something and land on some phpBB discussion somewhere with an active community.

Re: Mastodon 2.5 released

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post #6

The broad approach to social networking presented by Mastodon and other federated networks is "spend your time/resources on funding the network instead of paying someone else much less to do it." It wont "work" for the same reason everyone doesn't host their own email service. It flies in the face of a broader cultural movement we have: specialization of labor. For instance, the solution to content moderation and har…

Have you tried Mastodon?

You still pay someone else to run the server (or not, if you prefer), you can just choose who you pay, and which server. Sending toots does not require that you set up your own infra, re: the email example.

> People don't want to moderate themselves, they want a larger power to do it for them. It's why we have representative democracy instead of direct democracy: people don't want to be involved.

This is commonly asserted, but I’ve never seen much evidence for it. Was a direct democracy given a good run in the US at some-point? Do I need communications with my friends to be moderated? Does this effect only kick-in when finding strangers, attempting to influence millions at once, or selling ads? Moderation decisions on Facebook and Twitter make headlines at the moment, it doesn’t seem to me that people don’t care, or don’t want to be heard.

I agree with you that Mastodon is unlikely to ‘take-over’ Twitter or Facebook anytime soon. But that wouldn’t be my criteria for success.

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