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Re: Can you use the terminal for everything? [video]

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Post by gnulinux »

busfahrer wrote: post #8

I think there's a version of elinks (or one of the other text based browsers) that can display images if you are running on a framebuffer console

Not only that but there are tons of image viewer, video viewer, pdf viewer etc application for framebuffer (for linux). But this begs the question whether framebuffer can be considered "terminal". Also, to me it's still perfectly "terminal", if you use X and run a terminal emulator and live inside it unless you need to see a image, video or pdf. To me, the answer to this question is "yes".

Re: Can you use the terminal for everything? [video]

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Post by Fnoord »

pvg wrote: post #7
dilatedmind wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't watch the video but you could use youtubedl and then ffmpeg to display it on the framebuffer

on the framebuffer What manner newfangled luxury is that in a terminal? When I was young, we had to pick lice out of our hair and arrange them in the form of letters for others to read.

If you call something (watching videos/pictures or browsing in a framebuffer) which has been working since the end of '90s "new" then you've grown old. A while ago, if I might add. And the ability to use a CLI on a large say 1280x1024 resolution was nice as well, given the dots per inches on CRTs in late 90s.

Re: Can you use the terminal for everything? [video]

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Post by FreeFull »

busfahrer wrote: post #8

I think there's a version of elinks (or one of the other text based browsers) that can display images if you are running on a framebuffer console

http://links.twibright.com/ This fork/version of Links has a fully graphical mode, which works in both X and the framebuffer.

w3m can also display images using the framebuffer, with the rest of it still in text mode.

Re: Can you use the terminal for everything? [video]

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Post by pq0ak2nnd »

gumby wrote: post #9

Seems like the kinds of people who'd make/watch a video rather than read/write about the topic are not likely to be able to answer "yes". Is there a transcript? Or is the summary "no"?

IMHO The 20+ years spent trying to make a desktop version of linux has SEVERELY reduced overall knowledge of unix practices and patterns. I'm not just talking about things like automake or the contents in /bin that younger programmers never learn, but the CLI in general. A while back I was working with an intern who as struggling with using distributed linux boxes because all he knew was Gnome: the CLI was utterly foreign to him. So I find it upsetting that this "article" would even be necessary.

Re: Can you use the terminal for everything? [video]

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Post by clon »

https://neomutt.org/

The guy is absolutely right. Mutt is not a gimmick like ascii video on terminal.

It actually makes a lot of sense as an email client and is surprisingly ergonomic. I also enjoy the fact that my config is a normal dotfile that I can version control etc. Also, your passwords can be encrypted using the tools that you choose, as opposed to whatever home grown crypto (if any) the [insert random Electron email client] uses. Some ways are outlined here:

https://www.mail-archive.com/mutt-users@mutt.org/msg36375.ht...

Re: Can you use the terminal for everything? [video]

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Post by pvg »

Fnoord wrote: post #13
pvg wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

on the framebuffer What manner newfangled luxury is that in a terminal? When I was young, we had to pick lice out of our hair and arrange them in the form of letters for others to read.

If you call something (watching videos/pictures or browsing in a framebuffer) which has been working since the end of '90s "new" then you've grown old. A while ago, if I might add. And the ability to use a CLI on a large say 1280x1024 resolution was nice as well, given the dots per inches on CRTs in late 90s.

Some people would kill the lice first but sophisticated users preferred live ones which enabled advanced effects like 'dynamic text' and 'escape sequences'.

Re: Can you use the terminal for everything? [video]

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Post by antoineMoPa »

pq0ak2nnd wrote: post #16
gumby wrote: post #9

Seems like the kinds of people who'd make/watch a video rather than read/write about the topic are not likely to be able to answer "yes". Is there a transcript? Or is the summary "no"?

IMHO The 20+ years spent trying to make a desktop version of linux has SEVERELY reduced overall knowledge of unix practices and patterns. I'm not just talking about things like automake or the contents in /bin that younger programmers never learn, but the CLI in general. A while back I was working with an intern who as struggling with using distributed linux boxes because all he knew was Gnome: the CLI was utterly fo…

It is not a question of age, most of my older colleagues as an intern used desktop apps / GUI git clients and had few UNIX experience.

Re: Can you use the terminal for everything? [video]

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Post by Fnoord »

clon wrote: post #17

https://neomutt.org/ The guy is absolutely right. Mutt is not a gimmick like ascii video on terminal. It actually makes a lot of sense as an email client and is surprisingly ergonomic. I also enjoy the fact that my config is a normal dotfile that I can version control etc. Also, your passwords can be encrypted using the tools that you choose, as opposed to whatever home grown crypto (if any) the [insert random Electr…

Mutt/Neomutt is great once you got over the initial trauma of the keybinds and configuring the config plus theme. Except when it comes to HTML e-mail which is a lot more common that I'd like it to be.

For a more up-to-date guide on how to use GPG for your e-mail password [1]

[1] https://pthree.org/2012/01/07/encrypted-mutt-imap-smtp-passw...

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