I used to work at SpaceX on the team that did a piece of software called "WarpDrive". It was a massive monolithic ASP.NET application, with large swaths done with ASP.NET WebForms and a slow frontier of ASP.NET MVC gradually growing when I was working there. This application was responsible for practically everything that ran the factory: inventory, supply chain management, cost analysis, etc. Elon is a big Windows fan and pushed hard to run the whole shop on Microsoft tech. Thankfully the rockets fly with a heavily customized Linux install.
Former Tesla Firmware Engineer Discusses the System
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Re: Former Tesla Firmware Engineer Discusses the System
#12Source: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=38... (Pages 62 through 68) Left as a reference, citation. Mods: Wouldn't suggest changing to this URL, UX is pretty ick, easier to read the Twitter screenshots.
Any way to know those posts are not just the fantasy of a troll?
No, so they should be taken with a grain of salt.
Re: Former Tesla Firmware Engineer Discusses the System
#13Based on some of the details within these tweets, I would assume this person provided enough information to identify himself/herself at this point.
Do software engineers typically have confidentiality agreements that prohibit releasing proprietary information?
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#14Why is this interesting or surprising? Of course almost all challengers have hacky tech under the hood because they don't have the resources. Winning from that position is possible not because of generally better tech but by delivering something that the incumbents don't. Remember the demo of the first iPhone (vs the huge expertise of Nokia). Or how Microsoft won the desktop starting from a single user, cooperative m…
Remember the Toyota uncontrolled acceleration bug and the report that came as a result of the trial. It seems like software is a bit of a second thought for some incumbents too.
Re: Former Tesla Firmware Engineer Discusses the System
#15Based on some of the details within these tweets, I would assume this person provided enough information to identify himself/herself at this point. Do software engineers typically have confidentiality agreements that prohibit releasing proprietary information?
Yes, but he's already marked as "former", so recovery is limited. See the Waymo lawsuit.
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#16Why is this interesting or surprising? Of course almost all challengers have hacky tech under the hood because they don't have the resources. Winning from that position is possible not because of generally better tech but by delivering something that the incumbents don't. Remember the demo of the first iPhone (vs the huge expertise of Nokia). Or how Microsoft won the desktop starting from a single user, cooperative m…
Cars weigh thousands of pounds and routinely drive upwards of 60 miles per hour.
The success of the first iPhone or Facebook app didn't depend on using it to navigate through life-and-death situations not only for the users but also for everyone around them.
There are places for 'move fast and break things'. But cars move fast already, and they can really break things.
Re: Former Tesla Firmware Engineer Discusses the System
#17Why is this interesting or surprising? Of course almost all challengers have hacky tech under the hood because they don't have the resources. Winning from that position is possible not because of generally better tech but by delivering something that the incumbents don't. Remember the demo of the first iPhone (vs the huge expertise of Nokia). Or how Microsoft won the desktop starting from a single user, cooperative m…
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#18I hope this means we get to see YOSPOS referenced in mainstream media as an actual source.
I hope this means HN finds the gazillion-page thread mocking HN there.
Re: Former Tesla Firmware Engineer Discusses the System
#19Why is this interesting or surprising? Of course almost all challengers have hacky tech under the hood because they don't have the resources. Winning from that position is possible not because of generally better tech but by delivering something that the incumbents don't. Remember the demo of the first iPhone (vs the huge expertise of Nokia). Or how Microsoft won the desktop starting from a single user, cooperative m…
Cars weigh thousands of pounds and routinely drive upwards of 60 miles per hour. The success of the first iPhone or Facebook app didn't depend on using it to navigate through life-and-death situations not only for the users but also for everyone around them. There are places for 'move fast and break things'. But cars move fast already, and they can really break things.
I think this is a naive perspective. I've heard many similar stories from friends that work in the German automotive industry, and I think you would be surprised how many payment systems are tied together (e.g. (insecure) FTP servers to sync daily payments).
Every organization has these types of things internally. As an engineer, I don't like it, but it's a fact of life.
Re: Former Tesla Firmware Engineer Discusses the System
#20Why is this interesting or surprising? Of course almost all challengers have hacky tech under the hood because they don't have the resources. Winning from that position is possible not because of generally better tech but by delivering something that the incumbents don't. Remember the demo of the first iPhone (vs the huge expertise of Nokia). Or how Microsoft won the desktop starting from a single user, cooperative m…
Cars weigh thousands of pounds and routinely drive upwards of 60 miles per hour. The success of the first iPhone or Facebook app didn't depend on using it to navigate through life-and-death situations not only for the users but also for everyone around them. There are places for 'move fast and break things'. But cars move fast already, and they can really break things.
Tesla’s infotainment and IT infrastructure is unrelated to their safety. If this guy worked on motor control or braking system firmware then that would be scary, but he didn’t.