24-core CPU and I can’t type an email • Hacker News Board

Re: 24-core CPU and I can’t type an email

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Post by beefhash » Fri, Aug 17, 2018, 4:59 AM UTC

emilsedgh wrote: post #6

Gmail and Inbox both hang for me on my Chrome on Linux with almost no load. It's funny how tides turn. Initially Gmail was the king of performance.

I need 27 seconds on Firefox 52.9 ESR (Debian) and about 20,287 kbyte of data transferred in 148 requests just to reach an idle GMail tab.

What is all this stuff even doing?

Re: 24-core CPU and I can’t type an email

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Post by brucedawson » Fri, Aug 17, 2018, 5:05 AM UTC

emersonrsantos wrote: post #8

“I work on Chrome, on Windows” ... chrome_child.dll (stack base) KernelBase.dll!VirtualAlloc ntoskrnl.exe!MiCommitVadCfgBits ntoskrnl.exe!MiPopulateCfgBitMap ntoskrnl.exe!ExAcquirePushLockExclusiveEx ntoskrnl.exe!KeWaitForSingleObject (stack leaf) So don’t use a proprietary kernel that performs poorly?

I'm confused about your suggestion. I work on the Chrome web browser on the Windows platform. If we want to allocate memory we, ultimately, need to call VirtualAlloc.

I could work on Chrome for Linux, but then this bug on Windows might never get found or fixed. I am satisfied with my choices, despite the occasional glitches.

Re: 24-core CPU and I can’t type an email

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Post by codedokode » Fri, Aug 17, 2018, 5:07 AM UTC

So basically it is the problem with CFG (exploit protection) which is not ready for the cases when there are many allocations and freeing of excutable memory blocks.

Re: 24-core CPU and I can’t type an email

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Post by brewrwe » Fri, Aug 17, 2018, 5:09 AM UTC

beefhash wrote: post #11

emilsedgh wrote: post #6

Gmail and Inbox both hang for me on my Chrome on Linux with almost no load. It's funny how tides turn. Initially Gmail was the king of performance.

I need 27 seconds on Firefox 52.9 ESR (Debian) and about 20,287 kbyte of data transferred in 148 requests just to reach an idle GMail tab. What is all this stuff even doing?

I ended up going to Thunderbird for my main email addresses (work & personal), with Rainmail for quasi-disposable addresses on my various domains. Works much better than Gmail did towards the end of my years using Gmail.

Re: 24-core CPU and I can’t type an email

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Post by codedokode » Fri, Aug 17, 2018, 5:09 AM UTC

beefhash wrote: post #11

emilsedgh wrote: post #6

Gmail and Inbox both hang for me on my Chrome on Linux with almost no load. It's funny how tides turn. Initially Gmail was the king of performance.

I need 27 seconds on Firefox 52.9 ESR (Debian) and about 20,287 kbyte of data transferred in 148 requests just to reach an idle GMail tab. What is all this stuff even doing?

I usually append /h/ to the URL (/mail/h/) and get a HTML version. It can work even without JS and it has classic design with small rows that works well on my small screen. No Material Design and no huge elements with large offsets.

Re: 24-core CPU and I can’t type an email

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Post by brucedawson » Fri, Aug 17, 2018, 5:10 AM UTC

codedokode wrote: post #13

So basically it is the problem with CFG (exploit protection) which is not ready for the cases when there are many allocations and freeing of excutable memory blocks.

Yes

Re: 24-core CPU and I can’t type an email

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Post by steffan » Fri, Aug 17, 2018, 5:11 AM UTC

brucedawson wrote: post #12

emersonrsantos wrote: post #8

“I work on Chrome, on Windows” ... chrome_child.dll (stack base) KernelBase.dll!VirtualAlloc ntoskrnl.exe!MiCommitVadCfgBits ntoskrnl.exe!MiPopulateCfgBitMap ntoskrnl.exe!ExAcquirePushLockExclusiveEx ntoskrnl.exe!KeWaitForSingleObject (stack leaf) So don’t use a proprietary kernel that performs poorly?

I'm confused about your suggestion. I work on the Chrome web browser on the Windows platform. If we want to allocate memory we, ultimately, need to call VirtualAlloc. I could work on Chrome for Linux, but then this bug on Windows might never get found or fixed. I am satisfied with my choices, despite the occasional glitches.

Thanks for the fascinating and informative detective story, Bruce. (And the bugfix, of course)

Re: 24-core CPU and I can’t type an email

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Post by codedokode » Fri, Aug 17, 2018, 5:11 AM UTC

emersonrsantos wrote: post #8

“I work on Chrome, on Windows” ... chrome_child.dll (stack base) KernelBase.dll!VirtualAlloc ntoskrnl.exe!MiCommitVadCfgBits ntoskrnl.exe!MiPopulateCfgBitMap ntoskrnl.exe!ExAcquirePushLockExclusiveEx ntoskrnl.exe!KeWaitForSingleObject (stack leaf) So don’t use a proprietary kernel that performs poorly?

Does Linux has ETW or something of similar level?

Re: 24-core CPU and I can’t type an email

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Post by [deleted] » Fri, Aug 17, 2018, 5:12 AM UTC

emilsedgh wrote: post #6

Gmail and Inbox both hang for me on my Chrome on Linux with almost no load. It's funny how tides turn. Initially Gmail was the king of performance.

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Re: 24-core CPU and I can’t type an email

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Post by shriphani » Fri, Aug 17, 2018, 5:13 AM UTC

emilsedgh wrote: post #6

Gmail and Inbox both hang for me on my Chrome on Linux with almost no load. It's funny how tides turn. Initially Gmail was the king of performance.

yeah inbox basically causes chrome to beachball on OS X. They control the browser, the webapp and have still managed to put together an experience like this.