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What part do climate change deniers deny? Is it that the mean global temperature is going up, or the idea that it is going up because of human activities? I thought it was the latter.
We have to do something irregardless if climate change is mann made or not. The debate is irrelevant (at least until we get everything else cleaned up)
Even climate change deniers want clean water.
This is a very nice blog post. Quite instructive. Recently, several times I’ve run into people tell me that temps in the U.S. are rising and I’ve wondered why they make such a claim. The blog sources the claim and overall the point I take from the blog post is that it’s easy to deceive people since people seek, by and large, confirmation of preconceived ideas rather than the truth.
Toxic chemicals in our water and air. Plastic in the ocean. Etc. Etc. These are all things that are killing us and are proven to be bad. We have to do something irregardless if climate change is mann made or not. The debate is irrelevant (at least until we get everything else cleaned up) Even climate change deniers want clean water.
Sometimes these two things go together, such as when replacing coal power plants with renewables. But sometimes they’re in opposition. For example, the Volkswagen emissions scandal was that they increased particulate pollution in order to decrease greenhouse gas emissions. In diesel engines, there’s a tradeoff between CO2 emissions and other emissions.
Toxic chemicals in our water and air. Plastic in the ocean. Etc. Etc. These are all things that are killing us and are proven to be bad. We have to do something irregardless if climate change is mann made or not. The debate is irrelevant (at least until we get everything else cleaned up) Even climate change deniers want clean water.
Clean water is fairly distinct from climate change. Greenhouse gasses are mostly harmless aside from their warming effect, and the stuff that makes air and water unhealthy doesn’t warm the planet. Sometimes these two things go together, such as when replacing coal power plants with renewables. But sometimes they’re in opposition. For example, the Volkswagen emissions scandal was that they increased particulate pollut…
Toxic chemicals in our water and air. Plastic in the ocean. Etc. Etc. These are all things that are killing us and are proven to be bad. We have to do something irregardless if climate change is mann made or not. The debate is irrelevant (at least until we get everything else cleaned up) Even climate change deniers want clean water.
Clean water is fairly distinct from climate change. Greenhouse gasses are mostly harmless aside from their warming effect, and the stuff that makes air and water unhealthy doesn’t warm the planet. Sometimes these two things go together, such as when replacing coal power plants with renewables. But sometimes they’re in opposition. For example, the Volkswagen emissions scandal was that they increased particulate pollut…
> climate change deniers Otherwise known as Republicans.
Woah, that's not something I'd considered. Are weather stations that contribute to NOAA operated by the volunteer public, kind of like Weather Underground? Either way, that's pretty interesting that there's a distinct northward migration in at least one "demographic."
Great. More 'ammo' for climate change deniers to take out of context and spread around. Most folks would not bother with trying to understand the points this article is making when presented with the 'no change here' graph. HN readers are not 'most folks' so this type of data manipulation is obvious and wrong to many here.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Clean water is fairly distinct from climate change. Greenhouse gasses are mostly harmless aside from their warming effect, and the stuff that makes air and water unhealthy doesn’t warm the planet. Sometimes these two things go together, such as when replacing coal power plants with renewables. But sometimes they’re in opposition. For example, the Volkswagen emissions scandal was that they increased particulate pollut…
Erm, VW, decreased particulate emissions during testing in order to pass the testing and have the vehicles be higher powered (and more polluting) under normal use. They did it to sell cars and make profit; they weren't doing it to save the planet.