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Current policies will give more opportunities for Americans. Trump understands something that technology elites don't; the wealth pie is limited and you have to be deliberate in how you slice it and who you give those slices to.
Current policies will give more opportunities for Americans. Trump understands something that technology elites don't; the wealth pie is limited and you have to be deliberate in how you slice it and who you give those slices to.
Life doesn't have to be a zero sum game.
I find many popular arguments about immigration lack nuance and are sometimes purposefully misleading. I'm not fan of Trump, but he wants to institute a 'points based' system, along the lines of what Canada or Australia has. Immigrants to Canada tend to be fairly educated, more so than those coming to the us partly due to this policy, partly due to the irregular migrants coming to the US. The article's title and open…
[A] special clause in the bill could actually take away points if the applicant tries to bring his or her spouse...Drafters of the proposal said that it was modeled on similar systems used by Canada and Australia. But this is actually not how other countries treat family members under their points systems. In the five countries we examined that currently use similar points systems–Australia, Canada, Hong Kong, South…
QMAS gives you a few extra points (5) if you are applying alongside a degree-level-educated spouse, and a few more if you're bringing children (5 or 10 for 1 or 2 children). Given that the 'pass mark' is 80 - which doesn't guarantee a visa, just allows you to apply - it's neither a trivial amount nor a particularly significant one.
They are actively pushing away legal immigrants who contribute to society.
I don't see the following people wanting to live in a racist, anti immigrant, anti intellectual country:
- Nobel Laureates (budding geniuses especially)?
- Top scientists?
- Good engineers?
- Medical practitioners?
- Researchers?
- People who are family oriented?
Can anyone imagine a well-to-do, well-educated immigrant from a good country ever wanting to deal with US immigration nonsense? Especially, if they can be kicked out or denaturalized? I certainly can't.
In fact, the only people who would come to the US (now that the curtain on American racism is up) are the exact people their politicians over emphasize on aka gang members, asylum seekers, fleeing shitty conditions back home, have nothing else going on.
Such a paradox!
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I find US proposal exact same as Canadian one. Under Canadian system, a person without any family is able to gain more points than one with spouse. Because the spouses gets judged on their own qualifications like degree, English language ability etc. I think that article is incorrect. Try the points here yourself:- http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/crs-tool.asp
It's correct. Canada includes spouses in the comparison, like you say, but with far less weighting than the principal applicant. Usually the numbers don't work out to penalize the couple for the less qualified spouse in all but the most extreme Canadian immigration examples. A spouse having the opposite impact (helping the numbers) is far more common. Under Trump's proposal, having a modestly less qualified spouse wo…
Source: Immigrant to Canada and Australia. Helped at least 10 people immigrate through provincial nominee and Express Entry programs.
Edit:- Your Quebec reply. My brother immigrated through Quebec route too. Also, the spousal changes happened very very recently August 2nd. And Quebec is not the route that most immigrants to Canada take, it is Express Entry.
Please stop with this non-sense. You can be for or against the H-1B program, i don't care, but there is zero doubt that US citizens would be collecting way higher paychecks if the H-1B program did not exist. Thats simply supply and demand on the (tech-)labour market.
> "Cities’ productivity would increase, as would the wages of native-born high-skilled Americans, if more H-1B workers and skilled permanent residents were allowed to come." Please stop with this non-sense. You can be for or against the H-1B program, i don't care, but there is zero doubt that US citizens would be collecting way higher paychecks if the H-1B program did not exist. Thats simply supply and demand on the…
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It's correct. Canada includes spouses in the comparison, like you say, but with far less weighting than the principal applicant. Usually the numbers don't work out to penalize the couple for the less qualified spouse in all but the most extreme Canadian immigration examples. A spouse having the opposite impact (helping the numbers) is far more common. Under Trump's proposal, having a modestly less qualified spouse wo…
You score lower points in Canadian system too, if your spouse is less qualified. But the point impact is maximum 40 points. It can absolutely hurt some people. Here's the spousal impact:- https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/se... Source: Immigrant to Canada and Australia. Helped at least 10 people immigrate through provincial nominee and Express Entry programs. Edit:- Your Quebec reply. My broth…
[Edited to remove inaccurate info about the 40 points]
You may also be interested in Quebec's system, which as of August 2 makes children purely positive to the skilled worker points system there, and never removes points for spouses.
(The marriage only mildly raises Quebec's approval threshold, usually outweighed by the spouse's qualifications even if far lesser than the principal applicant.)
Source for the Quebec comments: the specific way I immigrated to Canada was via Quebec. I have friends who want to immigrate on both sides of the provincial border, so I continue to pay close attention to both systems.
I have always supported left politics, and I think I understand the basics of supply-and-demand economics. If immigrants come to the US looking for work instead of bringing work, there should be a higher supply of labor, driving the low-end pay-rate down. Given that the low-end rate has gone down significantly throughout the 3 decades that I have been alive, how do we on the left reason that immigration is not a factor? Or is it?
Also related: I thought public resources and the labor market were the most central reasons for nations having immigration policies. Am I wrong about that?
My parents voted for Trump, (or we might say they voted against Clinton). They have since decided to support Bernie Sanders next time, but they point to immigration’s effect on the labor supply as the reason to keep the border closed.
I would like to think we can address this with far more dignified solutions than what is being popularly proposed, but first things first; what am I missing?
The H1B study sounds suspicious and the defence of the H1B program weakened an otherwise strong article. H1B abuses have been long documented so while there are legitimate benefits to it, they are outweighed by the problems.