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Microsoft's Anti-Android FUD Campaign in Full Swing

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Re: Microsoft's Anti-Android FUD Campaign in Full Swing

#11

If WM7 is so important, why is it that Microsoft explicitly does not support syncing with 64-bit Outlook? This has led me to conclude that they've already given up, and when my PocketPC dies, I'll be looking for an Android.

> syncing with 64-bit Outlook

How is that even a problem in the first place? I really will never understand some of the situations Microsoft gets themselves into.

Re: Microsoft's Anti-Android FUD Campaign in Full Swing

#12

Isn't this like taking out a giant ad saying win7-mobile is so technically poor - we have decided the only way to compete with Apple and Android is in court with software patents?

No. It is more like taking out a giant ad and saying we own lots of patents and rather than sit on a wall with a plaque we intend to extract value from them, because that is what our shareholders demand.

So one business model = Apple

Another = Unisys

Looks like the beginning of the end....

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post #2

This is not surprising. Ballmer doesn't like the idea of losing his job in disgrace and Windows 7 Phone, while competitive, is still based on Windows CE. If you ignore the GUI, the underlying OS is every bit as sophisticated and modern as... Symbian. These are the patents Microsoft mentioned to the International Trade Commission. They may or may not the the patents mentioned in the Motorola lawsuit. 5,579,517: Common…

From what I read as part of the comments in the article, it seems Google already licensed some if not all of these patents (for Nexus one) and hence kind of validate them.

Re: Microsoft's Anti-Android FUD Campaign in Full Swing

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. It is more like taking out a giant ad and saying we own lots of patents and rather than sit on a wall with a plaque we intend to extract value from them, because that is what our shareholders demand.

So one business model = Apple Another = Unisys Looks like the beginning of the end....

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post #13
post #2

This is not surprising. Ballmer doesn't like the idea of losing his job in disgrace and Windows 7 Phone, while competitive, is still based on Windows CE. If you ignore the GUI, the underlying OS is every bit as sophisticated and modern as... Symbian. These are the patents Microsoft mentioned to the International Trade Commission. They may or may not the the patents mentioned in the Motorola lawsuit. 5,579,517: Common…

From what I read as part of the comments in the article, it seems Google already licensed some if not all of these patents (for Nexus one) and hence kind of validate them.

If that's true, it was a really stupid move...

Re: Microsoft's Anti-Android FUD Campaign in Full Swing

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post #2

This is not surprising. Ballmer doesn't like the idea of losing his job in disgrace and Windows 7 Phone, while competitive, is still based on Windows CE. If you ignore the GUI, the underlying OS is every bit as sophisticated and modern as... Symbian. These are the patents Microsoft mentioned to the International Trade Commission. They may or may not the the patents mentioned in the Motorola lawsuit. 5,579,517: Common…

Most of these are downright ridiculous... I mean damn it's like they patented common sense...

Most of them aren't as broad as the titles indicate (often the case), though they don't exactly seem like significant technical innovation either. The first two are part of the infamous set of FAT patents (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_Allocation_Table#FAT_licen...).

Re: Microsoft's Anti-Android FUD Campaign in Full Swing

#17

If WM7 is so important, why is it that Microsoft explicitly does not support syncing with 64-bit Outlook? This has led me to conclude that they've already given up, and when my PocketPC dies, I'll be looking for an Android.

> syncing with 64-bit Outlook How is that even a problem in the first place? I really will never understand some of the situations Microsoft gets themselves into.

Outlook is MS's preferred utility for storing contacts. Syncing your contacts on a winmo phone means importing them into outlook, essentially.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most of these are downright ridiculous... I mean damn it's like they patented common sense...

Most of them aren't as broad as the titles indicate (often the case), though they don't exactly seem like significant technical innovation either. The first two are part of the infamous set of FAT patents ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_Allocation_Table#FAT_licen... ).

I think the simplest way to dodge those patents is not supporting long file names.

And it's really weird to have patents issued over technology in use for almost 20 years and charge licensing for it.

Re: Microsoft's Anti-Android FUD Campaign in Full Swing

#19
Microsoft is championing this FUD, but I think it's worth remembering that it didn't start with them. Apple and Oracle have set the "hidden cost of Android" conversation in motion with their lawsuits.

Redmond actually has some room to make this kind of case since some of these patents have already been licensed by HTC and (from what I read here) Google.

Go figure.

Re: Microsoft's Anti-Android FUD Campaign in Full Swing

#20

If WM7 is so important, why is it that Microsoft explicitly does not support syncing with 64-bit Outlook? This has led me to conclude that they've already given up, and when my PocketPC dies, I'll be looking for an Android.

> syncing with 64-bit Outlook How is that even a problem in the first place? I really will never understand some of the situations Microsoft gets themselves into.

I have no idea what causes this particular problem, but Office is notorious for just writing in-memory data structures to disk and calling it a "file format", which would make 32-bit and 64-bit incompatible.
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