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How work kills us

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Re: How work kills us

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Let me tell you the secret - life as a process is killing you every moment. One can not exist without another. Jobs is just something we chose to spent our short time on, as well as few other things.

Great secret. Thanks. Please RTFA. Also most people do not choose to do jobs, they have to do jobs.

Perpetuating a victim mentality helps no one.

Re: How work kills us

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Work may kill us, but I've also seen enough people die shortly after retirement to be a bit suspicious. It really depends on how much your career is a part of your identity.

Yea, IMO there is a connection there. Although I also think a lot of people only retire when they're on their last leg health wise. They probably would have passed regardless of retirement in the same time frame.

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"The 19th-century liberals reformed the workplace and changed capitalism to save it." This made me laugh. Which liberals? Karl Marx?

Joseph Rowntree is the first name that comes into my head as a 19th-century liberal active in reforming the workplace.

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Let me tell you the secret - life as a process is killing you every moment. One can not exist without another. Jobs is just something we chose to spent our short time on, as well as few other things.

We choose to spend our time working? Only because there is no other reasonable option.

Unless you are slave or prisoner, yes, we choose to spend our time working or non-working.

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>Second, employers affect the stress-inducing conditions of work: work-family conflict, long work hours, absence of control over one’s work environment, and economic insecurity. Stress makes people sick both directly and by inducing unhealthy individual behaviours such as smoking, drinking, and overeating.

Not just stress, I simply hate my job. I'm stuck here, for 12 years now.

"so get another job Ryan" bahahahaha you're funny.

I have no degree, in the past month I was flat out rejected within 24 hours of applying to two jobs for not having a 4 year degree in ANYTHING.

I have a personal bankruptcy which will prevent most employers from hiring me, in fact last year I took a remote job and a few days in discovered I couldn't log in... no one would return my emails... some time later I get an email saying if I don't return the laptop immediately I will be billed for it, I said fine send me a label 'we did to your email' the email address you blocked me from? 'oh'. Apparently my bankruptcy came up in the background they did AFTER hiring me, at no point did they ask me about my financial background, if I'd had a bankruptcy, or even if I had a criminal record... they waited until after training me and starting work, fortunately I hadn't quit my current job yet or I'd have been screwed.

Yesterday, after 3 video interviews spanning 21 days, I was rejected for entry-level customer service remote work and was told "keep honing your skills. Maybe find a relevant side project or a local company to dip your toes deeper into a technology company".

So I hate my job and no one else wants to even take a chance on me because I lack a degree, have a personal bankruptcy from 6 and a half years ago and have been in a niche job for 12 years.

I legitimately wake up some days thinking "shit, why didn't I die in my sleep" because I have no future, each year I'm at this job I hate my life more. I dread doing ANYTHING most days now because it's "I can't really afford this" or "I just want to vegetate" or "what the hell happens if I have an unplanned expense of more than a few hundred bucks" or "what if mom has more issues". I get even more pigeonholed into being stuck at this job because it doesn't translate to anything else. Add to that I have a disabled parent I help support and my whopping 32k gross income doesn't even allow me to save for retirement.

Awesome. SERENITY NOW!

THIS is how work is killing me. I'm sure that stress, dread and worry are doing wonders for my long-term health.

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>> In the US, employment status and your employer determine your access to health-care I have spotted the problem. As usual, America wins the absurdity trophy.

Isn’t it case in most of the world, including many EU countries? Please don’t bring up the “free” healthcare, unviersal healthcare can really mistreat one for whom contributions are not paid.

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>> In the US, employment status and your employer determine your access to health-care I have spotted the problem. As usual, America wins the absurdity trophy.

Isn’t it case in most of the world, including many EU countries? Please don’t bring up the “free” healthcare, unviersal healthcare can really mistreat one for whom contributions are not paid.

Specific comparisons would make your comment more interesting.

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>> In the US, employment status and your employer determine your access to health-care I have spotted the problem. As usual, America wins the absurdity trophy.

Isn’t it case in most of the world, including many EU countries? Please don’t bring up the “free” healthcare, unviersal healthcare can really mistreat one for whom contributions are not paid.

Wait, what? Where else in the developed world do you lose access to basic health care (or, well, it'll bankrupt you and you'll be in shit for the rest of your life, same same) simply by losing a job? Do you really think that that is the case in most EU countries too?

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>Second, employers affect the stress-inducing conditions of work: work-family conflict, long work hours, absence of control over one’s work environment, and economic insecurity. Stress makes people sick both directly and by inducing unhealthy individual behaviours such as smoking, drinking, and overeating. Not just stress, I simply hate my job. I'm stuck here, for 12 years now. "so get another job Ryan" bahahahaha yo…

Do you know why a personal bankruptcy prevents you from being hired? That seems very weird, it should be completely separate from your work and can't in anyway harm your employer.

Re: How work kills us

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>Second, employers affect the stress-inducing conditions of work: work-family conflict, long work hours, absence of control over one’s work environment, and economic insecurity. Stress makes people sick both directly and by inducing unhealthy individual behaviours such as smoking, drinking, and overeating. Not just stress, I simply hate my job. I'm stuck here, for 12 years now. "so get another job Ryan" bahahahaha yo…

Do you know why a personal bankruptcy prevents you from being hired? That seems very weird, it should be completely separate from your work and can't in anyway harm your employer.

US employers commonly use (personal) credit reports to estimate how reliable or responsible a person is.
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