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MacBook Pro with i9 chip is throttled due to thermal issues, claims YouTuber

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Re: MacBook Pro with i9 chip is throttled due to thermal issues, claims YouTuber

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Macbook “Pro”.

It pains me how correct this feels. The MacBook Pro becomes an echo of itself every generation. Soon, the beat fades and we're left in the dells

I’m sticking with my 2015 15” until it bites the dust and then probably getting something else if Apple hasn’t figured this out yet. Even there software is degrading. I feel like I’m doing better by not running updates (I know this is not so, for security reasons, but...)

Re: MacBook Pro with i9 chip is throttled due to thermal issues, claims YouTuber

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The heat off that MBP reminds me of how hot my early 2011 15" MBP got. I suspect that the heat was the culprit for the GPU failures that gave the 2011 model its notoriety.

I thought that was gpu manufacturer issue? I recall Nvidia specifically had a lot of issues across many oems.

Hard to say. Some people got temporary fixes by baking their logic boards and/or reballing the GPU.

IIRC the "recall" involved replacing the logic boards with refurbs having the same GPUs. The CPUs on the boards seemed to be throttled after the replacement.

Re: MacBook Pro with i9 chip is throttled due to thermal issues, claims YouTuber

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I don't know a lot about heat dissipation, but could the slimness of the MBP be a factor in this? I would think that after a certain point, you wouldn't be able to get good airflow in such a small space.

The slimness makes it more aerodynamic, which is actually a thermal benefit in some high-speed air tunnels. Apple knows what they’re doing.

Re: MacBook Pro with i9 chip is throttled due to thermal issues, claims YouTuber

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That's seems to contradict a recent benchmark/post [1] which showed impressive CPU performance from the i9 MacBook Pro. [1] http://hrtapps.com/blogs/20180712/

The only impressive one was single core. Otherwise it was in line with a laptop, and not a desktop.

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That's seems to contradict a recent benchmark/post [1] which showed impressive CPU performance from the i9 MacBook Pro. [1] http://hrtapps.com/blogs/20180712/

Depends on the workload and amount of time spent processing the workloads.

Dave Lee ran some tests that took a half hour to complete with the CPU pretty much maxed out. I would imagine the CPU was running hot for most of that time.

Re: MacBook Pro with i9 chip is throttled due to thermal issues, claims YouTuber

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I keep seeing thermal issues come back to bite some of the smartest companies with products designed by the world's best engineers. Everything from batteries to laptops to phones is severely affected by heat, and improper thermal design can lead to some huge issues.

For example, the biggest thing affecting battery life is thermal load. The biggest thing affecting the maximum sustained power of a laptop or phone is the thermal design. Anyone can slap a cheap, powerful chip in; good thermal design is much harder.

I think people are going to start realizing this more and more, especially as powerful chips get extremely cheap.

Re: MacBook Pro with i9 chip is throttled due to thermal issues, claims YouTuber

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I don't know a lot about heat dissipation, but could the slimness of the MBP be a factor in this? I would think that after a certain point, you wouldn't be able to get good airflow in such a small space.

There are multiple factors, but slimness is probably not the only culprit.

I don't think Apple (or most other PC vendors) use the best thermal compound on their CPUs.

When my early 2011 MBP was having heat problems, I replaced the compound over the CPU and GPU and got noticeable although not spectacular reductions in heat.

Of course, that's not something you can do on a "modern" Macbook Pro, since they're not intended to be user serviceable any more.

Re: MacBook Pro with i9 chip is throttled due to thermal issues, claims YouTuber

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Dave Lee's youtube video is a withering takedown, presented dispassionately.

His argument is such a slam dunk that the article concludes with stunned disbelief, speculating that maybe there's "something wrong with the MacBook Pro with Core i9 chip that Lee received".

Yes there's something wrong with it, that was the exact point of his video. Do people really think he just got a lemon?

Re: MacBook Pro with i9 chip is throttled due to thermal issues, claims YouTuber

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Dave Lee's youtube video is a withering takedown, presented dispassionately. His argument is such a slam dunk that the article concludes with stunned disbelief, speculating that maybe there's "something wrong with the MacBook Pro with Core i9 chip that Lee received". Yes there's something wrong with it, that was the exact point of his video. Do people really think he just got a lemon?

In fairness, Lee criticized the Dell XPS 15's thermals in a video a couple of days ago. Of course, he also posted a video last week about how he was starting to hate Apple products.

If you watch a lot of his videos, you'll notice that he almost always talks about thermals, so it's not surprising to see him focus on that aspect of the MBP.

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