Juggalos figured out how to beat facial recognition • Hacker News Board

Re: Juggalos figured out how to beat facial recognition

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Post by ggg9990 » Tue, Jul 03, 2018, 5:56 PM UTC

sandworm101 wrote: post #9

yathern wrote: post #5

The title of this article seems to imply that face painting was intentionally used among Juggalos to deter computerized facial recognition - of course we know that's not the case. Though to be fair, somewhere in the history of the practice, it may be argued that it was to throw off human face-recognition. This reminds me of a sort of creative look into futuristic fashion I saw a bit ago: https://cvdazzle.com Where th…

>>> used among Juggalos to deter computerized facial recognition - of course we know that's not the case. Yes and no. Such levels of makeup are meant to be a mask. They are meant to at least partially obscure a person's true features or emotions. Facial recognition is having a very difficult time with women's faces under heavy makeup. Styles with strait lines or geometric shapes (right angles) really throws them off.…

It’s not surprising that facial recognition has trouble with makeup... if you’ve seen some of these photos of celebrity women with no makeup you wouldn’t recognize them in a million years.

Re: Juggalos figured out how to beat facial recognition

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Post by saudioger » Tue, Jul 03, 2018, 6:00 PM UTC

It happens to trick current facial recognition systems looking for typical faces... but I imagine it would be well within the possibility to create a "juggalo" filter that simply adjusts the levels until the impact of the makeup is reduced enough to grab a face out of?

Re: Juggalos figured out how to beat facial recognition

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Post by biggestlou » Tue, Jul 03, 2018, 6:04 PM UTC

WHOOP WHOOP

Re: Juggalos figured out how to beat facial recognition

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Post by matte_black » Tue, Jul 03, 2018, 6:08 PM UTC

Facial recognition is only “beaten” when a person’s normal face can go undetected without looking like a fucking juggalo.

Re: Juggalos figured out how to beat facial recognition

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Post by jeffreyrogers » Tue, Jul 03, 2018, 6:12 PM UTC

docker_up wrote: post #6

Once this technique becomes more widespread, get ready for laws that make it illegal to fool facial recognition, similar to wearing masks, etc.

I would imagine there is a pretty strong first amendment case against such laws in the United States. Mask laws have been successfully challenged on those grounds (though sometimes the challenges have been unsuccessful).

Re: Juggalos figured out how to beat facial recognition

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Post by moate » Tue, Jul 03, 2018, 6:14 PM UTC

qop wrote: post #10

Uhhhh, juggalos paint their face and it JUST SO HAPPENS that it beats face recognition sometimes. I assure you there was little to no intellectual effort on their part towards that end. Fucking magic. All in the motherfucking air.

So you're saying the band that produced the lyric "Fucking Magnets, how do they work?" might not have been pointedly trying to solve the problem of privacy in an evolving digital society?

Re: Juggalos figured out how to beat facial recognition

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Post by pssflops » Tue, Jul 03, 2018, 6:15 PM UTC

Are they still considered a gang via FBI's classification? Might be more a criminal act to be a Juggalo than to circumvent facial recognition.

Re: Juggalos figured out how to beat facial recognition

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Post by esaym » Tue, Jul 03, 2018, 6:17 PM UTC

"juggalo" man its been awhile since I've heard that word....a long while.

Re: Juggalos figured out how to beat facial recognition

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Post by kbenson » Tue, Jul 03, 2018, 6:21 PM UTC

yathern wrote: post #5

The title of this article seems to imply that face painting was intentionally used among Juggalos to deter computerized facial recognition - of course we know that's not the case. Though to be fair, somewhere in the history of the practice, it may be argued that it was to throw off human face-recognition. This reminds me of a sort of creative look into futuristic fashion I saw a bit ago: https://cvdazzle.com Where th…

The world is filled with people that figured out things accidentally because they were doing something else.

For example, the person who figured out how to heat food with microwaves (and created the first microwave) didn't set out to do so, he discovered that the chocolate bar in his front pocket melted while working on magnetrons.

"Figuring something out" doesn't imply concerted research towards that goal, accidental understanding happens all the time to all of us on many topics.

Re: Juggalos figured out how to beat facial recognition

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Post by kbenson » Tue, Jul 03, 2018, 6:25 PM UTC

electricslpnsld wrote: post #4

Legion wrote: post #2

More like "stumbled into" than "figured out".

"Stumbled into" is the discovery mode for many major scientific breakthroughs.

It's actually a little amazing how many people are stumbling over themselves to point out how one possible interpretation of the title that implies some credit is due to this group that people have a generally poor opinion of couldn't possibly actually have done anything useful.

This, people, is exactly what prejudice is.