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Intel CEO resigns after relationship with employee

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Re: Intel CEO resigns after relationship with employee

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There is no way you would fire a CEO you actually wanted in place because they had a consensual relationship with a subordinate in the past . Why are US companies always so aggressive about moralising these issues? No one would take issue if he carried a gun at work. Why is it that corporate morals rule?

To an extent I think that these things are promoted because they’re a very effective way to mislead people.

Re: Intel CEO resigns after relationship with employee

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There is no way you would fire a CEO you actually wanted in place because they had a consensual relationship with a subordinate in the past . Why are US companies always so aggressive about moralising these issues? No one would take issue if he carried a gun at work. Why is it that corporate morals rule?

The way the world works, it doesn't make sense that that alone is the reason. There has to be something more.

Re: Intel CEO resigns after relationship with employee

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Quite a few workplaces forbid relationships between managers and their subordinates. As CEO, that presumably puts everyone off-limits.

Seems odd to apply it after the fact in this case, though. Perhaps there was an ulterior motive for removing him. Otherwise I would expect Intel to just hide the information in order to protect the financial interests of the company.

Something strange is happening in Intel land, Brian Krzanich recently sold off the majority of his Intel stock, only retaining the minimum number allowable:

http://money.cnn.com/2018/01/04/technology/business/brian-kr...

Re: Intel CEO resigns after relationship with employee

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There is no way you would fire a CEO you actually wanted in place because they had a consensual relationship with a subordinate in the past . Why are US companies always so aggressive about moralising these issues? No one would take issue if he carried a gun at work. Why is it that corporate morals rule?

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Re: Intel CEO resigns after relationship with employee

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There is no way you would fire a CEO you actually wanted in place because they had a consensual relationship with a subordinate in the past . Why are US companies always so aggressive about moralising these issues? No one would take issue if he carried a gun at work. Why is it that corporate morals rule?

Not sure if he just got fired for a relationship or if there's something more.

But your remark about the "moralising" of US companies has also been my experience. I worked in a Europe-based office for a US-owned multinational company. Alcohol was strictly forbidden. (Needless to say, the fridge was filled regardless and late Friday afternoon, people would have a beer and fraternize.)

Re: Intel CEO resigns after relationship with employee

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There is no way you would fire a CEO you actually wanted in place because they had a consensual relationship with a subordinate in the past . Why are US companies always so aggressive about moralising these issues? No one would take issue if he carried a gun at work. Why is it that corporate morals rule?

A relationship between a manager and someone they manage compromises the effectiveness of both the manager and the team. As CEO, he is everyone's boss, so having a consensual relationship with anyone involved in the organisation is a bad thing.

If she got promoted, would it be because of her work, or her relationship with the boss? If she didn't get promoted, would it be because of her attitude, or her relationship with the boss? If she had an argument with a colleague, was it because she was an entitled slut? If he cut the budget of the department she worked in, was it because he was going off her?

It's pernicious and there's nothing you can do about it except simply not sleep with the people you manage.

If a CEO of a blue-chip like Intel doesn't get this basic rule of management, what other basic mistakes is he going to make? Bring a gun into work? ;)

Re: Intel CEO resigns after relationship with employee

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So obviously relationships are bad when there's a power dynamic, and between different management levels is a common subset of this.

However it feels like many people are spending more and more time at work, and it also seems cruel to say: "you cannot get to know anyone romantically during 50-75% of your waking day."

Re: Intel CEO resigns after relationship with employee

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What is the Intel non-fraternization policy? What romantic relationships are banned?

At most companies it basically means that a manager should not have a romantic relationship with anyone in their chain of command. In the case of a CEO this would extend to the entire company. I know it sounds punitive, but it’s really a question of fairness to every other employee working for that manager — nothing improper needs to be done by either party for it to negatively impact the other employees. It also dis…

> I know it sounds punitive, but it’s really a question of fairness to every other employee working for that manager — nothing improper needs to be done by either party for it to negatively impact the other employees.

> It also discourages managers from taking their pick of young staff members, and discourages any lower-level staff who might try to sleep their way to the top.

In addition, allowing these kinds of relationships also raises issues of sexual consent. Imagine this scenario:

CEO: Let's have sex tonight.

Employee: I'm not in the mood.

CEO: Looks like somebody's getting a bad performance review.

Employee: Fine then... let's get this over with.

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