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Facebook wants your naked photos to stop revenge porn

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Re: Facebook wants your naked photos to stop revenge porn

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Post by gr3yh47 »

blackflame7000 wrote: post #9
mtgx wrote: post #4

I wonder what's their real agenda with these photos. You can never take what Facebook says at face value. Just like when they say they're only building shadow profiles on you for security purposes.

There is already plenty of porn on the internet, why do they need more?

Given what facebook is and has done, why wouldn't you be suspicious that there is a hidden reason that is beneficial to facebook.

I can see a new zuck quote now... 'i asked them for nudes and those idiots just gave them to me'

Re: Facebook wants your naked photos to stop revenge porn

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Post by always_good »

LinuxBender wrote: post #3

This would be a useful service if their system could detect signs of skin cancer. In terms of squelching revenge porn, I do not see how this would remove anything from non facebook servers. Is 4chan going to integrate with this? Are they really only using hashing? Simple hash checks are negated with trivial effort. If they are just hashes, why are users uploading anything beyond a hash? Example: virustotal [0] can ge…

Well, imagine how much revenge porn is being shared on Facebook and their other social networks because that's where the victim is.

You don't need global buy-in for it to be useful. Raising the barrier can be useful.

The bullies have to not just find another video host, but be bothered to actually do it.

Watching my friend's little brother wonder how to do anything out of the same three Android apps he uses daily, I've become convinced that Facebook's measure will be effective enough.

Re: Facebook wants your naked photos to stop revenge porn

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Post by Shank »

gr3yh47 wrote: post #11
blackflame7000 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is already plenty of porn on the internet, why do they need more?

Given what facebook is and has done, why wouldn't you be suspicious that there is a hidden reason that is beneficial to facebook. I can see a new zuck quote now... 'i asked them for nudes and those idiots just gave them to me'

> Given what facebook is and has done, why wouldn't you be suspicious that there is a hidden reason that is beneficial to facebook.

Facebook is in the middle of a PR disaster which sank their stock price because they gave away data to companies that users agreed to give away. Nude photos are probably more sensitive to people than their social security number and bank information -- especially to younger people.

The public outrage that would follow if anything nefarious was happening to voluntarily sent nude photos would be tantamount to destruction of the company. It's not hyperbole -- the whole point of submitting photos to stop revenge porn is to stop the spread of the photos. Anything else would contravene that trust and spark moral hostility.

Re: Facebook wants your naked photos to stop revenge porn

#15

Post by [deleted] »

syshum wrote: post #8
LinuxBender wrote: post #3

This would be a useful service if their system could detect signs of skin cancer. In terms of squelching revenge porn, I do not see how this would remove anything from non facebook servers. Is 4chan going to integrate with this? Are they really only using hashing? Simple hash checks are negated with trivial effort. If they are just hashes, why are users uploading anything beyond a hash? Example: virustotal [0] can ge…

I doubt it is Simple file level Hashing MS Pioneered tech for Child Porn that looks at the actual photo and hashes parts of the file, PhotoID, that makes is more robot than a simple file hash, which ML I am sure this has improved alot in the decades it was first released However I agree that is unlikely to curb Revenge Porn...

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Re: Facebook wants your naked photos to stop revenge porn

#16

Post by blackflame7000 »

syshum wrote: post #8
LinuxBender wrote: post #3

This would be a useful service if their system could detect signs of skin cancer. In terms of squelching revenge porn, I do not see how this would remove anything from non facebook servers. Is 4chan going to integrate with this? Are they really only using hashing? Simple hash checks are negated with trivial effort. If they are just hashes, why are users uploading anything beyond a hash? Example: virustotal [0] can ge…

I doubt it is Simple file level Hashing MS Pioneered tech for Child Porn that looks at the actual photo and hashes parts of the file, PhotoID, that makes is more robot than a simple file hash, which ML I am sure this has improved alot in the decades it was first released However I agree that is unlikely to curb Revenge Porn...

The technique is called fuzzy hashing

Re: Facebook wants your naked photos to stop revenge porn

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Post by brianmcc »

How can anyone with an ounce of common sense not immediately dismiss this as totally preposterous? It's completely and utterly nuts! Anyone in management at FB considering this a reasonable initiative has surely lost all perspective on the right way to solve what I'm sure is - sadly - a genuine and serious problem.

Re: Facebook wants your naked photos to stop revenge porn

#18

Post by lainga »

toomanybeersies wrote: post #10
mtgx wrote: post #4

I wonder what's their real agenda with these photos. You can never take what Facebook says at face value. Just like when they say they're only building shadow profiles on you for security purposes.

For all its flaws, I don't think that it's likely that FB would move into the blackmail space.

Are you sure you want to delete your account?

These friends will miss you. ... We might have to start serving them the images you uploaded instead, or they'll get lonely!

Re: Facebook wants your naked photos to stop revenge porn

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Post by joering2 »

Upload your own porn to Facebook, hilarious! Zuckerberg really hasn't changed and he still believes his users are dumb fucks.

Knowing real Facebook, I would imagine at minimum they will be extracting tattoos from these photos and sharing it with FBI/LEs of all sorts. AS it turns out many criminal cases are being solved because someone flashed their tattoo.

So 10 years from now Zuck will be on the road apologizing that they shared your naked photos/tattoos with LEs but you know thats for the common good so its allright. But definitely we will do better lol :)

Here Together: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4zd7X98eOs

Edit: its beyond hilarious that the upload above has comments section disabled LOL! Social network not so much LOL

Re: Facebook wants your naked photos to stop revenge porn

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Post by LinuxBender »

koolba wrote: post #6
LinuxBender wrote: post #3

This would be a useful service if their system could detect signs of skin cancer. In terms of squelching revenge porn, I do not see how this would remove anything from non facebook servers. Is 4chan going to integrate with this? Are they really only using hashing? Simple hash checks are negated with trivial effort. If they are just hashes, why are users uploading anything beyond a hash? Example: virustotal [0] can ge…

It's not just hashes of the raw bytes of the photos. More likely something like PhotoDNA[1] that's already used for tracking child porn. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PhotoDNA

That would be great. Are there any links that suggest Facebook is using this?
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