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The Obligatory WePay “Company Culture” Blog Post: Part 2

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i too believe company culture is extremely important. after contemplation i've requested that the 'company' i'm starting a friend will be a vegetarian company, in a sense that the company will never pay for taking sentient beings. i'm consciously extending personal culture (i'm veg), to company culture. anyone who thinks this is a good/bad thing for a founder to do?

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i too believe company culture is extremely important. after contemplation i've requested that the 'company' i'm starting a friend will be a vegetarian company, in a sense that the company will never pay for taking sentient beings. i'm consciously extending personal culture (i'm veg), to company culture. anyone who thinks this is a good/bad thing for a founder to do?

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Re: The Obligatory WePay “Company Culture” Blog Post: Part 2

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i too believe company culture is extremely important. after contemplation i've requested that the 'company' i'm starting a friend will be a vegetarian company, in a sense that the company will never pay for taking sentient beings. i'm consciously extending personal culture (i'm veg), to company culture. anyone who thinks this is a good/bad thing for a founder to do?

If you are a vegetarian out of a sense of duty toward your own principles, that's a fine and respectable thing.

But culture is not a set of specific abstract principles. It's the set of mutual values, expectations, conventions, and methods of communication that define the way people within your organization interact with each other and work together to achieve the company's goals.

You guide the development of your culture not by fiat and ideology, but by carefully structuring the organization in a way conducive to healthy growth, by selecting the people with the right mindset to put in positions of responsibility, and most importantly, by setting the example in the way that you act and make decisions.

If you proclaim your company officially vegetarian, here are the effects I see to culture, as understood in this way:

* Alienate members on your staff who are not vegetarian.

* Blur the distinction between personal preferences and business strategy.

* Establish a precedent that the founders's personal opinions on issues wholly orthogonal to the business are still valid grounds for policy-making (imagine the consequences of future managers emulating this).

In the long term, you're probably moving toward a culture with an unhealthy amount of internal contention, and a staff that may not feel fully invested in the company's goals.

Re: The Obligatory WePay “Company Culture” Blog Post: Part 2

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i too believe company culture is extremely important. after contemplation i've requested that the 'company' i'm starting a friend will be a vegetarian company, in a sense that the company will never pay for taking sentient beings. i'm consciously extending personal culture (i'm veg), to company culture. anyone who thinks this is a good/bad thing for a founder to do?

I think this is an excellent idea, and I comment you for standing up for what you know to be right!

It's pointless to debate vegetarianism with the average person - they get endlessly defensive and pull out discredited theories and personal attacks to insult you.

This IS a good thing to do. Maybe you'll attract more enlightened employees, which will benefit the company culture.

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i too believe company culture is extremely important. after contemplation i've requested that the 'company' i'm starting a friend will be a vegetarian company, in a sense that the company will never pay for taking sentient beings. i'm consciously extending personal culture (i'm veg), to company culture. anyone who thinks this is a good/bad thing for a founder to do?

anyone who thinks this is a good/bad thing for a founder to do? From what I know so far - by reading, including scientific works, and studying biochemistry, it appears that the humans evolved to obtain at least some of their diet from animal sources (Vitamin B12, Omega 3 fatty acids come to mind). So I would consider this sort of culture as destructive for my health, even if it is only mildly destructive and the resu…

This just isn't the case these days.

Who cares about 'tribes'? We understand nutrition, we have access to a complete and vast range of fruits, vegetables, grains and processed foods year long, unlike any other group of humans in history. Take a vitamin for b12 and there is NOTHING a vegan/vegetarian diet does not provide. It is vastly healthier than the average person's diet, really.

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anyone who thinks this is a good/bad thing for a founder to do? From what I know so far - by reading, including scientific works, and studying biochemistry, it appears that the humans evolved to obtain at least some of their diet from animal sources (Vitamin B12, Omega 3 fatty acids come to mind). So I would consider this sort of culture as destructive for my health, even if it is only mildly destructive and the resu…

This just isn't the case these days. Who cares about 'tribes'? We understand nutrition, we have access to a complete and vast range of fruits, vegetables, grains and processed foods year long, unlike any other group of humans in history. Take a vitamin for b12 and there is NOTHING a vegan/vegetarian diet does not provide. It is vastly healthier than the average person's diet, really.

We understand nutrition

No, we can not say that. Nutritionists can not even decide on the reasons for the obesity - some say people just eat too much and exercise too little (aka "calories in, calories out"), others point to more complex reasons. Not to speak about more complex issues.

It is vastly healthier than the average person's diet, really

To that I agree. But "better than X" still does not mean optimal.

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This just isn't the case these days. Who cares about 'tribes'? We understand nutrition, we have access to a complete and vast range of fruits, vegetables, grains and processed foods year long, unlike any other group of humans in history. Take a vitamin for b12 and there is NOTHING a vegan/vegetarian diet does not provide. It is vastly healthier than the average person's diet, really.

We understand nutrition No, we can not say that. Nutritionists can not even decide on the reasons for the obesity - some say people just eat too much and exercise too little (aka "calories in, calories out"), others point to more complex reasons. Not to speak about more complex issues. It is vastly healthier than the average person's diet, really To that I agree. But "better than X" still does not mean optimal.

Of course, but we have a much clearer idea of what sustains health than ancient civilizations.

I agree, a variety is your best bet.

But if better than X is not optimal, where X is the standard diet and the varied vegetarian diet is the alternative - what's the other option?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

We understand nutrition No, we can not say that. Nutritionists can not even decide on the reasons for the obesity - some say people just eat too much and exercise too little (aka "calories in, calories out"), others point to more complex reasons. Not to speak about more complex issues. It is vastly healthier than the average person's diet, really To that I agree. But "better than X" still does not mean optimal.

Of course, but we have a much clearer idea of what sustains health than ancient civilizations. I agree, a variety is your best bet. But if better than X is not optimal, where X is the standard diet and the varied vegetarian diet is the alternative - what's the other option?

Of course, but we have a much clearer idea of what sustains health than ancient civilizations.

I'm not so sure about that. I usually offer two of my favourite links that describe well how the human health deteriorated when agriculture became widely adopted.

http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2009/03/paleopathology... http://www.environnement.ens.fr/perso/claessen/agriculture/m...

I think that paleolithic diet is more natural - one can eat pretty much all fruits and vegetable but does not have to avoid animal products. The idea is to avoid 'neolithic' foods - those that came into human diet less than 10-20K years ago: processed foods, sugars, grains etc.

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