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Re: YouTube Music, a new music streaming service, is coming soon

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I've been a Google Play Music subscriber from the beginning, which means I've enjoyed the grandfathered $7.99 price. That has also extended to YouTube Red. However, this announcement muddies the waters a bit. > If you are a subscriber to Google Play Music, good news, you get a YouTube Music Premium membership as part of your subscription each month. Cool, I guess, except I don't go to YouTube for Music. I really am i…

nope, you have to pay $12 to continue having Red. :(

Re: YouTube Music, a new music streaming service, is coming soon

#12

I've been a Google Play Music subscriber from the beginning, which means I've enjoyed the grandfathered $7.99 price. That has also extended to YouTube Red. However, this announcement muddies the waters a bit. > If you are a subscriber to Google Play Music, good news, you get a YouTube Music Premium membership as part of your subscription each month. Cool, I guess, except I don't go to YouTube for Music. I really am i…

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Re: YouTube Music, a new music streaming service, is coming soon

#13
Normally when I see this kind of announcement, I think "It will take long before they learn and nail it like the main competition" - in this case Spotify. Spotify seems to be doing a great job curating new music or building playlist specifically for me according to what I listen to, and I can only assume it's 100% automated obviously.

Google is so strong with ML today, and not stopping, I don't know what will allow smaller competitors to stay differentiated. I just had a call with a G recruiter, and pretty much 100% of the roles they have in all their European offices are ML-related roles, on most products. And they hire without ML experience, which I think is a sign of how much they are investing in ML.

This is no news, but having this call and seeing how little non-ML they had was really eye opening on how much this is G's focus now, and it can only be exponential I assume.

Re: YouTube Music, a new music streaming service, is coming soon

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Something they should have done long back, I had to use other Youtube apps just to listen to music in backgroud

I've uninstalled the Youtube app because of this, I understand the business case for it but making the video stop when the app isn't focused is making the Youtube app utterly pointless.

The app looks beautiful and obviously they took a lot of effort to build it but this small detail makes it completely unusable unfortunately.

Re: YouTube Music, a new music streaming service, is coming soon

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post #11

I've been a Google Play Music subscriber from the beginning, which means I've enjoyed the grandfathered $7.99 price. That has also extended to YouTube Red. However, this announcement muddies the waters a bit. > If you are a subscriber to Google Play Music, good news, you get a YouTube Music Premium membership as part of your subscription each month. Cool, I guess, except I don't go to YouTube for Music. I really am i…

nope, you have to pay $12 to continue having Red. :(

This is extremely disappointing. I’m sure the amount of $7.99 GPM early adopters is minuscule to their metrics, but the cost of goodwill is far higher.

Re: YouTube Music, a new music streaming service, is coming soon

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What sells me on spotify is the ability to control it from any device. Listening on my phone while at my computer? Hit skip on my keyboard and the phone skips to the next track. Playing on my Dot? I can pause right from my phone. Ditto with volume control.

I wanted to like amazon music but I could not because of the lack of these features.

Re: YouTube Music, a new music streaming service, is coming soon

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post #13

Normally when I see this kind of announcement, I think "It will take long before they learn and nail it like the main competition" - in this case Spotify. Spotify seems to be doing a great job curating new music or building playlist specifically for me according to what I listen to, and I can only assume it's 100% automated obviously. Google is so strong with ML today, and not stopping, I don't know what will allow s…

> Google is so strong with ML today, and not stopping, I don't know what will allow smaller competitors to stay differentiated.

If they use the same algorithm YouTube uses to pick videos for me, Spotify doesn't have to worry at all. It just gives me the same things over and over and I never discovered anything worthy from their video suggestions. I have to actively search to find anything new.

Re: YouTube Music, a new music streaming service, is coming soon

#19

Lol why does google make these also-ran services? Too little too late, I legit dont care. Like what is the differentiator here. Google really doesn't get culture and the internet. The internet lets me listen to weird shit, make it easy to discover underground shit, not fucking Drake and fucking Havana. You know the things played nonstop on the radio. God their product launches legit piss me off. So many resources to…

You appear to be in the minority: YouTube is the #2 highest trafficked website as of April 2018: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_popular_website...

The most recent example: 134,000,000 views in 7 days for This is America. Plus millions more reaction videos, remixes and more.

Speaking personally, I absolutely create playlists from music videos.

Re: YouTube Music, a new music streaming service, is coming soon

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post #13

Normally when I see this kind of announcement, I think "It will take long before they learn and nail it like the main competition" - in this case Spotify. Spotify seems to be doing a great job curating new music or building playlist specifically for me according to what I listen to, and I can only assume it's 100% automated obviously. Google is so strong with ML today, and not stopping, I don't know what will allow s…

What you’re saying seems like it must be true... Google must be so strong at ML. How could it be otherwise?

And yet, YouTube recommendations are terrible lowest common denominator nonsense. It’s just “more of the same” for some surface level definition of “same”. There doesn’t seem to be any playfulness to the learning algorithm at all. No Bayesian experiments. There’s no flex.

Amazon too... so much data, so many smart people.

Why can’t these companies lead me on a garden path of delights? Why can’t they take my hand and walk with me through the full content space? Why do I continually feel that there are vast delightful segments of the catalog I will never see unless I query for them?

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