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The HP-35: Consumer Electronics, an Origin Story

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Re: The HP-35: Consumer Electronics, an Origin Story

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A neighbor gave us one when he moved up to an HP-25 (lower number, but a later and better calculator). I used it in college. I remember running across campus on my way to a chemistry test, playing catch with my calculator (in the padded case) as I ran. I had confidence that, even if I dropped it, it would still work .

I accidentally sat on my HP-15C in college and broke the LCD. I wrote to HP to see where I could get the LCD replaced. I was a college student and the thing was like $125 1986 dollars, I wanted to fix it, not buy a new one.

They just sent me a new calculator for free. I was so amazed! Heh.

I repeated almost the same accident with an early kindle and Amazon did the same free replacement. I don't think they do today.

Re: The HP-35: Consumer Electronics, an Origin Story

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An anecdote about the HP-35, from the HP Museum (http://www.hpmuseum.org/hp35.htm):

> The HP-35 had numerical algorithms that exceeded the precision of most mainframe computers at the time. [...] This forced time-consuming manual comparisons of results to mathematical tables. A few bugs got through this process. For example: 2.02 ln e^x resulted in 2 rather than 2.02. When the bug was discovered, HP had already sold 25,000 units which was a huge volume for the company. In a meeting, Dave Packard asked what they were going to do about the units already in the field and someone in the crowd said "Don't tell?" At this Packard's pencil snapped and he said: "Who said that? We're going to tell everyone and offer them, a replacement. It would be better to never make a dime of profit than to have a product out there with a problem". It turns out that less than a quarter of the units were returned. Most people preferred to keep their buggy calculator and the notice from HP offering the replacement.

And here is a scan of that recall notice: https://imgur.com/K1k0cSQ (original source: http://www.hpmuseum.org/forum/thread-2821.html)

Re: The HP-35: Consumer Electronics, an Origin Story

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It really is hard to over state the impact that scientific calculators had on industry. My great uncle who was an engineer at the Panama Canal company had log tables, these were tables of logarithmic values given a number, and the inverse. He needed the heavy tome because he couldn't get enough digits of precision out of his slide rule. He was one of those people who immediately bought an HP-35 when it came out and w…

I have my dad's slide rule, and his HP-35. He's a retired industrial research scientist.

At my dad's workplace, every scientist had a Friden 55. The managers compared the price of the HP to the annual service contract on the Friden, and bought an HP to try out. They were going to let each scientist have it for a week, then pass it on to the next person. Instead, after just a couple weeks, the Fridens were all in the dumpster.

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Unfortunately, consumer electronics are not the same as the days of Braun. 70’s was the golden era. I was extremely pleased with my DM42 from SwissMicros. All of their models either have a Titanium or Steel case. The heft and quality is just absolutely beautiful. I spoke to Michael Steinmann and he seems to be a great guy passionate about what he does. I enjoyed our conversation about old school electronics. Check ou…

Thanks for SwissMicros link! Never heard of them.

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Re: The HP-35: Consumer Electronics, an Origin Story

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It really is hard to over state the impact that scientific calculators had on industry. My great uncle who was an engineer at the Panama Canal company had log tables, these were tables of logarithmic values given a number, and the inverse. He needed the heavy tome because he couldn't get enough digits of precision out of his slide rule. He was one of those people who immediately bought an HP-35 when it came out and w…

I have my dad's slide rule, and his HP-35. He's a retired industrial research scientist. At my dad's workplace, every scientist had a Friden 55. The managers compared the price of the HP to the annual service contract on the Friden, and bought an HP to try out. They were going to let each scientist have it for a week, then pass it on to the next person. Instead, after just a couple weeks, the Fridens were all in the…

Awesome.

It's proving a little tricky to find a picture and/or more info about the Friden 55. All I'm getting is other models. Was it mechanical?

(Hopefully some of them ended up in attics, they sound mildly interesting even if just from a historical-interest retrospective standpoint)

Re: The HP-35: Consumer Electronics, an Origin Story

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I really really like HP calculators. The only one I have now is the HP-35s, a new version of HP-35. Once you go RPN, you can never go back! I have PCalc (another piece of amazing software) on my phone for RPN. It feels really stupid for others to see that I can't operate a normal calculator.

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Re: The HP-35: Consumer Electronics, an Origin Story

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100K units in the first year, vs your king of consumer electronics today: the iPhone, which pre-sells and ships 100K units in what, several minutes?

I understand not everyone buys calculators, but that’s sort of the point of the article that this was marketed as a ‘consumer’ electronics product rather than scientific equipment.

Also there’s much less friction and much more marketing today, but it’s wild to imagine how millions of iPhones ‘move’ in a single weekend, every year for nearly the last decade and what is required to keep supply in pace with demand.

Re: The HP-35: Consumer Electronics, an Origin Story

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Unfortunately, consumer electronics are not the same as the days of Braun. 70’s was the golden era. I was extremely pleased with my DM42 from SwissMicros. All of their models either have a Titanium or Steel case. The heft and quality is just absolutely beautiful. I spoke to Michael Steinmann and he seems to be a great guy passionate about what he does. I enjoyed our conversation about old school electronics. Check ou…

INTERESTING, thanks for sharing. Please, how is the keyboard? To me, more than anything, what made the HP calc fantastic was the great keyboard - which really matters when you start using them in anger.

My HP-15C survived all but the last of many drops. The HP-11C that replaced it still powers on on its original batteries!

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