Firefox 60 released • Hacker News Board

Re: Firefox 60 released

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Post by newscracker » Wed, May 09, 2018, 5:13 PM UTC

The enterprise part is great to see (though it was something that seemed long overdue). I recently noticed on a Firefox mailing list that Mike Kaply (of Kaply Consulting, a company that helped with enterprise deployment and configuration of Firefox) had officially joined the Firefox team. Mike's presence is going to make Firefox in the enterprise much better.

On Firefox 60, I'm still not on board with the newest versions after the support for legacy extensions was removed. SessionManager, an awesome (legacy, XUL) extension, still doesn't have a perfect equivalent in the Web Extension world. Tab Session Manager, which has similar functionality, seems to be lagging behind and struggling with issues in Firefox that prevent it from becoming a good session manager.

If there's one thing I could ask the Firefox team, it would be to focus on enabling web extensions to do almost everything that legacy extensions were able to. Without the power of feature rich and stable extensions, Firefox is currently inadequate for me (though I still use it as my primary browser).

Re: Firefox 60 released

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Post by Karunamon » Wed, May 09, 2018, 5:13 PM UTC

setquk wrote: post #5

malfeasance wrote: post #3

Pocket Sponsored Stories will appear for a percentage of users in the US. Read about our privacy-conscious approach to sponsored content If you can't roll out a feature without violating EU privacy laws, you're not employing a "privacy-conscious approach."

Yes. Firefox is basically adware now.

Not sure why this comment is grey, FF is now adware by objective definition of the word adware.

Wiki >Adware, or advertising-supported software, is software that generates revenue for its developer by automatically generating online advertisements in the user interface of the software or on a screen presented to the user during the installation process

Re: Firefox 60 released

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Post by mtgx » Wed, May 09, 2018, 5:13 PM UTC

superdaniel wrote: post #2

I'm glad that they have released support for the Web Authentication API. Hopefully I won't need to use Chrome for websites I choose to be more secure with. Although, with a quick look it seems like I still can't use U2F with Google on Firefox.

It's also good because this version will be supported in FF ESR for enterprise for another 11 months or so.

Re: Firefox 60 released

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Post by Tomte » Wed, May 09, 2018, 5:14 PM UTC

superdaniel wrote: post #2

I'm glad that they have released support for the Web Authentication API. Hopefully I won't need to use Chrome for websites I choose to be more secure with. Although, with a quick look it seems like I still can't use U2F with Google on Firefox.

Me neither (FastMail and Gmail). sigh

But just yesterday people tried to "educate" me that it works with 60 and for 59 I had to toggle an about:config switch.

It's great that they support the proper web standard. It would be useful if all those web sites supported it. This is a long-known issue, and nobody cares about non-Chrome browsers.

Re: Firefox 60 released

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Post by butz » Wed, May 09, 2018, 5:14 PM UTC

apazzolini wrote: post #9

Unfortunately, looks like the CPU spikes are still a problem on OS X for me. I check this every time a new version is released as I'd love to make the switch from Chrome, but Firefox with one blank tab and no extensions uses more CPU than Chrome with 15 actual tabs. When I actually throw activity at Firefox it hogs the CPU even more. Here's hoping v61 addresses it.

Have you reported this bug? It's all fine on the old OS X Mavericks.

Re: Firefox 60 released

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Post by Kpourdeilami » Wed, May 09, 2018, 5:15 PM UTC

apazzolini wrote: post #9

Unfortunately, looks like the CPU spikes are still a problem on OS X for me. I check this every time a new version is released as I'd love to make the switch from Chrome, but Firefox with one blank tab and no extensions uses more CPU than Chrome with 15 actual tabs. When I actually throw activity at Firefox it hogs the CPU even more. Here's hoping v61 addresses it.

It is borderline unusable on the most recent Macbook Pro and most recent version of OS X. Weird that it only seems to affect some people

Re: Firefox 60 released

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Post by gruez » Wed, May 09, 2018, 5:16 PM UTC

Karunamon wrote: post #12

setquk wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. Firefox is basically adware now.

Not sure why this comment is grey, FF is now adware by objective definition of the word adware . Wiki > Adware, or advertising-supported software, is software that generates revenue for its developer by automatically generating online advertisements in the user interface of the software or on a screen presented to the user during the installation process

>... is software that generates revenue for its developer ...

does pocket suggesting stories somehow generate revenue for Mozilla?

Re: Firefox 60 released

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Post by lwansbrough » Wed, May 09, 2018, 5:17 PM UTC

They still haven't fixed whatever problem causes my Late 2013 RMBP's CPU/fan to jump to 80C and stay there while FF is open. Back to Chrome. :(

Re: Firefox 60 released

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Post by pritambaral » Wed, May 09, 2018, 5:19 PM UTC

malfeasance wrote: post #3

Pocket Sponsored Stories will appear for a percentage of users in the US. Read about our privacy-conscious approach to sponsored content If you can't roll out a feature without violating EU privacy laws, you're not employing a "privacy-conscious approach."

Does Pocket Sponsored Stories violate privacy? It doesn't seem like they track the user or anything like that. And, Mozilla claims their approach is "Privacy-Conscious".

Re: Firefox 60 released

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Post by kibwen » Wed, May 09, 2018, 5:19 PM UTC

Karunamon wrote: post #12

setquk wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. Firefox is basically adware now.

Not sure why this comment is grey, FF is now adware by objective definition of the word adware . Wiki > Adware, or advertising-supported software, is software that generates revenue for its developer by automatically generating online advertisements in the user interface of the software or on a screen presented to the user during the installation process

Because by that definition Firefox has been adware since Firefox 1.5, released in 2005, due to the ubiquitous "Google" logo in the search box that every user sees by default upon installing the browser, and for which Firefox receives the bulk of its revenue.