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Future sailors: what will ships look like in 30 years?
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Re: Future sailors: what will ships look like in 30 years?
#12What I'm waiting for is for foils to become useful. It doesn't make sense to (only) replace energy source, drag should be minimized too. Admittedly it will take a long time for technology to be ready for these huge ships though.
Re: Future sailors: what will ships look like in 30 years?
#13Much like they look now. You might call ship designs a local maxima but the physics aren’t going to change any time soon.
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#14Earlier quoted context omitted.
So pirates will be able to steal nuclear material? What happens if a container sinks near a popular beach? I doubt people want these kinds of risks. I’d expect gas and diesel to be used for airplanes and ships for a long long time.
>So pirates will be able to steal nuclear material? Why couldn't private security be part of international freight? The costs for this security could be added to freight costs. For example, Russian private security contractors successfully protected ships near Somalia - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XJ0nblZjZE >What happens if a container sinks near a popular beach? I doubt people want these kinds of risks. Govern…
Private security is not a guarantee and someone could always send a suicide bomber. It happened a few times to US navy ships it would probably be easier to do to commercial ships.
Re: Future sailors: what will ships look like in 30 years?
#15As someone that has designed (military) ships, here are my thoughts.
- LNG is definitely happening, and that alone will make a massive difference in emissions.
- No shit smoother bottoms and bulbous bows are better for efficiency, that's been standard practice for decades and large cargo ships are generally not that old.
- Counter rotating props are interesting, I could see that being a big win but the mechanical complexity might not be worth it. Cargo ships are generally kept pretty simple for reliability.
- I doubt we'll see widespread wind or solar power any time soon. The dynamics of wind turbines on top of a pitching platform get pretty wild quick. The energy density of solar doesn't seem high enough.
- Lol, get the fuck out of here with the idea of nuclear power for cargo ships. The US Navy doesn't even bother with that complexity for anything other than subs & carriers where it's the only viable option.
Re: Future sailors: what will ships look like in 30 years?
#16What I'm waiting for is for foils to become useful. It doesn't make sense to (only) replace energy source, drag should be minimized too. Admittedly it will take a long time for technology to be ready for these huge ships though.
Hydrofoils are generally higher drag at low speed, they only make sense when you want to go faster than displacement speed. That doesn't make sense for most cargo, anything time sensitive is going by air.
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#17I'm excited but skeptical. Energy-saving concepts have been around for a long, long time. For example, I first heard about the use of kites[1] over a decade ago, yet the company that makes them is struggling to stay afloat. The issue is that commercial ships are very expensive to build, even using parametric design — where you basically plug in your desired cargo capacity and get a complete blueprint in return. Also,…
And, I have to say, as a navy surface officer, I don't see how much of any of this is going to change the sailor's life. Living on a working ship is a bit like being a mouse on the deck of a lawnmower. For all intents and purposes, you're in the machine, and it will kill you.
Re: Future sailors: what will ships look like in 30 years?
#18As someone that has designed (military) ships, here are my thoughts. - LNG is definitely happening, and that alone will make a massive difference in emissions. - No shit smoother bottoms and bulbous bows are better for efficiency, that's been standard practice for decades and large cargo ships are generally not that old. - Counter rotating props are interesting, I could see that being a big win but the mechanical com…
I think the biggest win for wins in the near term will be kites, not full-on sail rigged ships.
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#20Maybe nuclear power for commercial ships? Global navies have proved and refined nuclear power technology for their ships. Why not apply this technology to the commercial sector, instead of carrying gallons of diesel?
So pirates will be able to steal nuclear material? What happens if a container sinks near a popular beach? I doubt people want these kinds of risks. I’d expect gas and diesel to be used for airplanes and ships for a long long time.
Nuclear material is self-guarding.