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Re: ICOs are Cancer

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No they're not. An innocent person can't succumb to an ICO the way anyone can get Cancer. This is just a very old story: "A fool and his money."

cancer isn't transmittable either

There are several forms of transmittable cancer in other species. Luckily none in humans yet.

Re: ICOs are Cancer

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It's a metaphor. I personally think that "cancer" describes something that is deadly, awful, and spreads. Instead of saying those three things, or maybe more, it conveys the message to me more quickly.

It's a really poor metaphor, though. ICOs are stupid, but really easy to avoid (just don't put money into them). Certainly not "awful" in the way losing a loved one to an early, excruciating death is. They're not deadly and they don't "spread", at least not by any means remotely comparable to how cancer spreads. It's not like the author works with the metaphor, either. The word appears exactly one time on the page, i…

Cancer/cancerous et al are words that do not just pertain to the disease. Maybe you should get off the high horse for just a little bit.

Re: ICOs are Cancer

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Cancer is a bad word for this for many reasons.

Word choice aside, I agree many ICOs are scams, and in general I think it's not a great idea to give someone very large sums of money up front to build something, with very few strings attached. The immediate global liquidity of tokens is both good and bad. Having access to a lot of funding early on, especially with no accountability, even with most well-intended projects often leads to building the wrong thing, stuff people don't want or need, since there is less pressure to validate the product (for instance via revenue).

I would like to believe self-regulation and peer pressure, once transparency standards are established, will happen. De facto tools for governance and transparency of token projects is something I think is sorely needed, and it's something projects like Aragon - https://aragon.one - are building.

I think ICOs are an interesting way of funding certain types of projects that would not be viable through traditional VC funding - certain types of open source projects for instance. And I think we could see the token concept take off in unexpected places. But I hope the cryptocurrency/token ecosystem will move towards a more sustainable direction that generates real value for people instead of the casino like atmosphere today.

Re: ICOs are Cancer

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They're a cancer or disrupter to old ways of financing a startup. They're not cancer if you have executed one yourself and if you understand how trading vehicles work along with the capital markets. Wall Street is the real cancer. Software engineering has never merged very well with financial engineering except in the world of the quantitative analyst. It's all about how the funding is used in the end. Some ICOs will actually be part of solving for cancer. If you’d like to acquire accurate information on the structure, performance and differences in ICOs, contact me kasian.franks@gmail.com

Re: ICOs are Cancer

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A bit off topic, but why is it a trend these days to use "cancer" for things that have nothing to do with the disease? It sounds a bit insensitive.

It's evocative. Like saying something is a "cold war", or someone has gone "postal" or a situation went "nuclear".

Is it insensitive? Probably. It's fitting though, if you see the analogy as "something that will kill the host if not treated".

Re: ICOs are Cancer

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ICOs are an all-encompassing term. They cross cut utility tokens, security tokens, and new crypto currencies.

So an ICO for something like Filecoin, which is monetizing a storage protocol built around IPFS, that's a utility token. There are plenty of legitimate ICO projects out there that have either 1) already shipped 2) have a working beta or 3) are risky but have strong teams. It doesn't take a lot of time to look for them.

I'm not a lawyer, but security tokens and the tokenization of private equities, and everything from startup shares to real estate to gold-backed tokens, these are positive developments. Raising money for business IS hard, and especially so if you're not one of the privileged tech elite in Silicon Valley. Author seems to forget this.

Furthermore, there's other sectors of the economy too. Have you ever tried raising money for a non-tech business? It's not easy. Money isn't exactly abundant in these sectors. Blockchain/token fundraising has the potential to bring more efficient capital markets to underserved industries and underserved jurisdictions (including other countries with different securities regulations).

Re: ICOs are Cancer

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

cancer isn't transmittable either

There are several forms of transmittable cancer in other species. Luckily none in humans yet.

HPV could be considered transmittable cancer. Some types of cancer only occur because of an HPV infection.
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