Title is missleading: "His actual crime, which he pleaded guilty to, was counterfeiting the packaging to make the discs pass for Dell-branded ones." He misled his customers in order to make money. This isnt really different than selling knock off gucci handbags. Sure they probably work & look the same, but it does damage to the legitimate brand.
Microsoft helped imprison a man for ‘counterfeiting’ software it gives away free
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Re: Microsoft helped imprison a man for ‘counterfeiting’ software it gives away free
#12Title is missleading: "His actual crime, which he pleaded guilty to, was counterfeiting the packaging to make the discs pass for Dell-branded ones." He misled his customers in order to make money. This isnt really different than selling knock off gucci handbags. Sure they probably work & look the same, but it does damage to the legitimate brand.
My understanding was that he was changing $.75 (essentially the cost of the DVDs)?
Re: Microsoft helped imprison a man for ‘counterfeiting’ software it gives away free
#13Did he or did he not seek to make a meaningful profit from this activity? I can't see information on that in the article. Also did he use the downloadable file or did he actually burn from an existing DELL disc? I think there would be software differences potentially there right? I got a reinstallation media sent out from DELL and it definitely seemed customised.
Re: Microsoft helped imprison a man for ‘counterfeiting’ software it gives away free
#14Did he or did he not seek to make a meaningful profit from this activity? I can't see information on that in the article. Also did he use the downloadable file or did he actually burn from an existing DELL disc? I think there would be software differences potentially there right? I got a reinstallation media sent out from DELL and it definitely seemed customised.
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#1515 months sounds excessive, but the fact the software could be downloaded by customers for free is not a mitigating factor in a guy attempting to make a profit making it look as much as possible like a paid for product sold by Dell/Microsoft...
Re: Microsoft helped imprison a man for ‘counterfeiting’ software it gives away free
#16Referring to Microsoft Windows as "free software" is just wrong. Microsoft Windows is not Free Software. Even if you leave out the caps intending to refer to price only, the title is wrong. Windows is not for free. You can only get unlicensed copies for free. Which is what the article is about.
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#18> I can look in to the missing boxes - Usually in my history - Customs just ships them to you 3 weeks later.
> If they call you - play stupid and just tell them that you ordered from an asset management overseas.
> Tell him that the product was guaranteed to be real and that you paid a very high price for it. Act upset as to why you had not received your product yet.
Obviously cherry-picked by the prosecutors; but there's a lot more, and it makes him look much worse than the press coverage does.
https://blogs.microsoft.com/uploads/prod/sites/5/2018/04/2LU...
ETA: And why do the media keep repeating the $0.25/disk? There's a PO where he sold some for $3 or $4 each. Less than the stupid $25, but not charity.
Re: Microsoft helped imprison a man for ‘counterfeiting’ software it gives away free
#1915 months sounds excessive, but the fact the software could be downloaded by customers for free is not a mitigating factor in a guy attempting to make a profit making it look as much as possible like a paid for product sold by Dell/Microsoft...
I don't know if I would call it 'trying to make profit' when you make CDs in China, ship them to US and sell the CDs for 25 cent a piece.
According to himself he made no money off of this both because no one wanted to buy the CDs and the price didn't really allow for profit.
Re: Microsoft helped imprison a man for ‘counterfeiting’ software it gives away free
#20Did he or did he not seek to make a meaningful profit from this activity? I can't see information on that in the article. Also did he use the downloadable file or did he actually burn from an existing DELL disc? I think there would be software differences potentially there right? I got a reinstallation media sent out from DELL and it definitely seemed customised.