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The 20-year-old entrepreneur is a myth, according to study

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Re: The 20-year-old entrepreneur is a myth, according to study

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Personally I think the ideas you have when you are 20 and the ideas you have when you are 40 are probably going to differ a lot. Since starting a business is about doing something in the real world that is going to make money I am not surprised to see that there is more older entrepreneurs than one might expect. The ideas you have when you are 20 are often more idealist and not necessarily connected to reality as muc…

I'm 44. Ideas are a dime a dozen (if you can come up with them). The hardest part is the implementation and having necessary capital.

Comparing today to the mid 90s when I was doing my first college startup, capital is relatively easy to come by and the expenses for setting up servers/hosting are pennies on the dollar.

My issue in my 20s was not knowing how to get into businesses and provide them tools they needed. I also ignored all the .com boom type stuff because I was (sadly) too grounded in revenue.

Most ideas aren't unique, novel, or even new. It's how you deliver and the service/services you provide. If you're benefiting people in some way, they'll come running.

Re: The 20-year-old entrepreneur is a myth, according to study

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I don't see the raw data of the study but I can think of one reason why it contradicts the public perception of the 20-something founder: There's a difference between B2B/SaaS/enterprise startups vs B2C startups.

The B2B companies are often started by older folks in their 30s and 40s. (E.g. PeopleSoft human resources software started by David Duffield age 46 and Siebel CRM software started by Tom Siebel age 41. Both were acquired by Oracle.) Their accumulated years in the industry gives them the relationships to convert into their first enterprise customers. Even more fundamentally, a B2B startup solves a "paint point" for corporate customers. Therefore, it makes sense that the founders would have spent many years working for companies (as employees in their 20s and 30s) to intimately understand how to solve their problem. Being a 40-something founder is the natural timeline for all that to happen.

However, many prominent B2C companies are started by 20-somethings (e.g. Google (age 25), Facebook (age 19), Snapchat (age 21), Instagram (age 27). The top-100 consumer-facing iOS & Android apps on their app stores are probably done by younger founders. It's hard to think of consumer-facing internet companies that were started by 40-somethings. (Netscape in 1995 with 50-year-old Jim Clark would be an uncommon example.) The B2C world doesn't require existing industry relationships; it's the viral spread of software to create network effects rather than a 6-month sales cycle of B2B.

It's the B2C companies that get more coverage on WSJ, Bloomberg news, and even tech sites like HN. Readers will click on more stories with "Snapchat" (B2C) in the title rather than "Palantir" (B2B). Therefore, it seems like the startup world is skewed towards 20-somethings.

Re: The 20-year-old entrepreneur is a myth, according to study

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post #12

I don't see the raw data of the study but I can think of one reason why it contradicts the public perception of the 20-something founder: There's a difference between B2B/SaaS/enterprise startups vs B2C startups. The B2B companies are often started by older folks in their 30s and 40s. (E.g. PeopleSoft human resources software started by David Duffield age 46 and Siebel CRM software started by Tom Siebel age 41. Both…

> Netscape in 1995 with 50-year-old Jim Clark would be an uncommon example

Don't forget 23-year-old Marc Andreessen as a cofounder.

This is a really interesting trend! Thanks for pointing it out.

Re: The 20-year-old entrepreneur is a myth, according to study

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Studies like this often ignore the power law. Consider the most valuable tech companies: 1. Apple: $570.7B. - Jobs: 21 - Wozniak: 26 2. Alphabet: $560B. - Larry & Sergey: 25ish 3. Microsoft: $434B. - Gates: 19ish - Allen: 22ish 4. Amazon: $365B. - Bezos: 30ish 5. Facebook: $354B. - Zuckerberg: 19 What matters are the power law companies, not the average company. My guess is that your ability to create an incremental…

Jobs basically reinvented Apple when he came back. The "power law" company that you're talking about was created by a person in his 40s. Before that it was a has-been that had to be bailed out by its biggest competitor.

Leaving that aside, can give any more detail as to why you think power law companies matter and "average" companies don't? There's a lot of "average" companies out there that are making tidy profits for lots of folks.

Re: The 20-year-old entrepreneur is a myth, according to study

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Studies like this often ignore the power law. Consider the most valuable tech companies: 1. Apple: $570.7B. - Jobs: 21 - Wozniak: 26 2. Alphabet: $560B. - Larry & Sergey: 25ish 3. Microsoft: $434B. - Gates: 19ish - Allen: 22ish 4. Amazon: $365B. - Bezos: 30ish 5. Facebook: $354B. - Zuckerberg: 19 What matters are the power law companies, not the average company. My guess is that your ability to create an incremental…

Agreed.

Unfortunately, delusions of grandeur and a unicorn VC culture convince average young people into believing themselves to be power law founders with power law ideas. Thankfully that has changed a bit and it looks like the miracle men are moving into blockchain. In reality, billion dollar+ ideas are rare, and clever, delusional, and young people are a great fit for the helm.

When you're older, you have domain knowledge, leadership experience, and want to take linear risks, not "sacrifice one of the remaining chapters in my life for that chance".

Re: The 20-year-old entrepreneur is a myth, according to study

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i always enjoy reading these articles, because others like myself who have had their startups acquired at a young age are beating the stigma.

but i feel as though in this day of age there’s so many “companies” who claim to be “startups.” sure, they may have the experience, just not the capital.. and with that it completely changes everything.

anyways i’m 21 and had a “startup” (an app) acquired at 18. now back in school, i can understand the articles perspective. i’m only 21 and i feel like i only really have 10% of the knowledge, compared to someone who is 40 and who has so much more experience then me.

Re: The 20-year-old entrepreneur is a myth, according to study

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I'm in my late 30s now, and the biggest impediments to starting a business are family/financial obligations and the fact that nobody is going to fund a ~40 year old first-time entrepreneur.

So the only option is to work nights/weekends on an MVP (the slow way) while holding down a full-time job, and hope you can get enough traction on your own to attract attention/investment/etc. --> I'm finding this last bit extremely difficult. Doing dev/product work as a moonlighter is perfectly reasonable (though not necessarily fun after a hard day's work), I can sit up in bed with my laptop and hack on code until I fall asleep... but add sales and marketing on top of that and there simply isn't enough time to do things right (not to mention, you really need to be selling during standard business hours -- except you can't because you're at your day job).

Re: The 20-year-old entrepreneur is a myth, according to study

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post #12

I don't see the raw data of the study but I can think of one reason why it contradicts the public perception of the 20-something founder: There's a difference between B2B/SaaS/enterprise startups vs B2C startups. The B2B companies are often started by older folks in their 30s and 40s. (E.g. PeopleSoft human resources software started by David Duffield age 46 and Siebel CRM software started by Tom Siebel age 41. Both…

If I was going to sum-up this comment, it'd be something like "Sell what you know."

The viral growth of companies started by 20-something founders is fueled by 20-something consumers.

The growth of companies started by 40-something founders is fueled by businesses with 40-something managers/executives.

Re: The 20-year-old entrepreneur is a myth, according to study

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post #17

I'm in my late 30s now, and the biggest impediments to starting a business are family/financial obligations and the fact that nobody is going to fund a ~40 year old first-time entrepreneur. So the only option is to work nights/weekends on an MVP (the slow way) while holding down a full-time job, and hope you can get enough traction on your own to attract attention/investment/etc. --> I'm finding this last bit extreme…

I'd suggest finding a co-founder. This can be difficult depending on where you live. Go to a meetup and talk about your idea. Find someone who gets jazzed about it and ask them to come on board. Give them some tasks to do to prove they're serious. When they disappear and don't do them, go back to solo founding satisfied you wasted your time on comment advice from an anonymous stranger on HN.
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