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Re: Why Invest in Cities? There's Always Another Boise

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Post by smallnamespace »

metei wrote: post #2

If Boise is happy to deal with an influx of Californians, they can have at it. I'd rather they go there than migrate up the West Coast, bringing their far right politics with them. A year or so ago I was near San Diego, and turning on the radio I got an earful about how finding a new strongman to head the police department was the #1 duty of the city. Seemed absolutely ridiculous to me, but the culture down in Cali i…

Here's a crazy notion: maybe political philosophies aren't a one size fits all, but different approaches work well in different times and places?

Re: Why Invest in Cities? There's Always Another Boise

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Post by StudentStuff »

taurath wrote: post #3
metei wrote: post #2

If Boise is happy to deal with an influx of Californians, they can have at it. I'd rather they go there than migrate up the West Coast, bringing their far right politics with them. A year or so ago I was near San Diego, and turning on the radio I got an earful about how finding a new strongman to head the police department was the #1 duty of the city. Seemed absolutely ridiculous to me, but the culture down in Cali i…

I’ve heard a lot of things about California transplants (being one myself), but being far right is one I haven’t yet heard.

Most of the Californians who went to Oregon in the 1980s lobbied for right wing policies in the new places they moved to (which created a number of issues), hence the fear of those disillusioned with California leaving and bringing destructive political views with them that could seriously harm wherever they move.

Edit: Downvoting me doesn't make the long term effects of what ex-Californians did to Eastern Oregon go away, small towns in Eastern Oregon are still hamstrung by policies and decisions implemented in that era by ex-Californians.

Re: Why Invest in Cities? There's Always Another Boise

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Post by StudentStuff »

_virtu wrote: post #9

As someone who's currently looking to purchase a first home in Boise after living here for the last 9 years, all I can say is "meep". There's nothing like the crazy stupid money that Californians are brining in to the housing market to make we wish articles like this would stop shining the spotlight on Boise. The housing market has been nuts this season and I can't help but think that it's all the Californians coming…

Financially speaking, what good paying jobs are in Boise? I have cousins out there who both graduated with solid degrees, yet can't find work outside retail, and have learned the hard way that becoming management in retail has massive downsides (esp. on one's family).

Re: Why Invest in Cities? There's Always Another Boise

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Post by Semirhage »

taurath wrote: post #3
metei wrote: post #2

If Boise is happy to deal with an influx of Californians, they can have at it. I'd rather they go there than migrate up the West Coast, bringing their far right politics with them. A year or so ago I was near San Diego, and turning on the radio I got an earful about how finding a new strongman to head the police department was the #1 duty of the city. Seemed absolutely ridiculous to me, but the culture down in Cali i…

I’ve heard a lot of things about California transplants (being one myself), but being far right is one I haven’t yet heard.

California is massive, and it isn’t all SF and LA. You’d think that electing Schwarzenegger governor would have been a hint as to some political leanings! California has a sizeable rural community, which is typical Right wing.

http://cdn.abclocal.go.com/content/kfsn/images/cms/automatio...

Re: Why Invest in Cities? There's Always Another Boise

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Post by _virtu »

StudentStuff wrote: post #13
_virtu wrote: post #9

As someone who's currently looking to purchase a first home in Boise after living here for the last 9 years, all I can say is "meep". There's nothing like the crazy stupid money that Californians are brining in to the housing market to make we wish articles like this would stop shining the spotlight on Boise. The housing market has been nuts this season and I can't help but think that it's all the Californians coming…

Financially speaking, what good paying jobs are in Boise? I have cousins out there who both graduated with solid degrees, yet can't find work outside retail, and have learned the hard way that becoming management in retail has massive downsides (esp. on one's family).

Mainly tech. I work in tech and have had no issue looking for work.

> 7,000 science, technology, engineering and math jobs went unfilled in Idaho in 2017, double the number from the year before.

Sources:

[1]: http://www.idahostatesman.com/news/politics-government/state...

Re: Why Invest in Cities? There's Always Another Boise

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Post by lotharbot »

jeffdavis wrote: post #5

What is happening in Boise? The article doesn't really say.

Boise is absorbing a lot of people who either can't afford to live in California any more, or don't like California's political environment. Boise is currently the fastest growing metro area in the US.

This is happening in a lot of mid-sized cities in the western US. California's economic / housing policies result in very high cost of living, which causes a significant migration of poor people out of the state and into places like Boise, Denver, Las Vegas, Beaverton, Fort Worth, and so on.

You can frequently find articles like http://www.vvdailypress.com/news/20180203/packing-up-and-mov... from those places.

Re: Why Invest in Cities? There's Always Another Boise

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Post by ebikelaw »

taurath wrote: post #3
metei wrote: post #2

If Boise is happy to deal with an influx of Californians, they can have at it. I'd rather they go there than migrate up the West Coast, bringing their far right politics with them. A year or so ago I was near San Diego, and turning on the radio I got an earful about how finding a new strongman to head the police department was the #1 duty of the city. Seemed absolutely ridiculous to me, but the culture down in Cali i…

I’ve heard a lot of things about California transplants (being one myself), but being far right is one I haven’t yet heard.

California is diverse and populous. There are enough far right voters in California that if they were to migrate en masse they would totally overwhelm their destination. They're also more likely to migrate, being the most irked by California's current one-party government. As a personal anecdote I happen to know a small businessman who moved from Fremont, California, to Oregon because those gosh darn overbearing regulators in Fremont wanted his employees to stop being severely injured. That's your basic right-wing migrant in a nutshell.

But anyway, just remember that population is very important. You might think New York is liberal but there are more Trump voters in New York City than there are total voters in Alabama.

Re: Why Invest in Cities? There's Always Another Boise

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Post by connorl33t »

StudentStuff wrote: post #13
_virtu wrote: post #9

As someone who's currently looking to purchase a first home in Boise after living here for the last 9 years, all I can say is "meep". There's nothing like the crazy stupid money that Californians are brining in to the housing market to make we wish articles like this would stop shining the spotlight on Boise. The housing market has been nuts this season and I can't help but think that it's all the Californians coming…

Financially speaking, what good paying jobs are in Boise? I have cousins out there who both graduated with solid degrees, yet can't find work outside retail, and have learned the hard way that becoming management in retail has massive downsides (esp. on one's family).

There's a surprisingly large tech scene in Boise, quiet, but there.

Re: Why Invest in Cities? There's Always Another Boise

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Post by maxxxxx »

smallnamespace wrote: post #11
metei wrote: post #2

If Boise is happy to deal with an influx of Californians, they can have at it. I'd rather they go there than migrate up the West Coast, bringing their far right politics with them. A year or so ago I was near San Diego, and turning on the radio I got an earful about how finding a new strongman to head the police department was the #1 duty of the city. Seemed absolutely ridiculous to me, but the culture down in Cali i…

Here's a crazy notion: maybe political philosophies aren't a one size fits all, but different approaches work well in different times and places?

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Re: Why Invest in Cities? There's Always Another Boise

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Post by ebikelaw »

Semirhage wrote: post #14
taurath wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve heard a lot of things about California transplants (being one myself), but being far right is one I haven’t yet heard.

California is massive, and it isn’t all SF and LA. You’d think that electing Schwarzenegger governor would have been a hint as to some political leanings! California has a sizeable rural community, which is typical Right wing. http://cdn.abclocal.go.com/content/kfsn/images/cms/automatio...

Acres don't vote, thankfully :-) 74% of California's delegation - 39 of 53 - are Democrats.
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