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Should we use [paywall] tag where applicable?

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Re: Should we use [paywall] tag where applicable?

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No. Support high quality journalism.

Wait, what? How would adding an indication that the article is paywalled inhibit/hamper support for high quality content?

If an article is paywalled and I don't have any indication about this, I would open the link, notice it's paywalled and then decide whether to pay or not. If a tag is present, this just moves the decision early in the process.

So, again, how would not using such a tag help support high quality journalism?

Re: Should we use [paywall] tag where applicable?

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post #13
post #9

No. Support high quality journalism.

Wait, what? How would adding an indication that the article is paywalled inhibit/hamper support for high quality content? If an article is paywalled and I don't have any indication about this, I would open the link, notice it's paywalled and then decide whether to pay or not. If a tag is present, this just moves the decision early in the process. So, again, how would not using such a tag help support high quality jou…

I'm not sure if your question is rhetorical or not. But if you really are wondering, it's because if we click the link, chances are that we read that first paragraph of text paywalled articles usually show. That makes us interested/curious and we might pay to view it. We also feel more invested in the content after that first click.

If we only have the title in the HN feed chances are lower that we will buy the content instead of simply scrolling by. Since the latter that takes less effort.

We humans don't always make rational choices, so nudging us in the direction of paying for content – if we want to support payed content – will of course increase the amount we spend on content.

Re: Should we use [paywall] tag where applicable?

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post #15
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wait, what? How would adding an indication that the article is paywalled inhibit/hamper support for high quality content? If an article is paywalled and I don't have any indication about this, I would open the link, notice it's paywalled and then decide whether to pay or not. If a tag is present, this just moves the decision early in the process. So, again, how would not using such a tag help support high quality jou…

I'm not sure if your question is rhetorical or not. But if you really are wondering, it's because if we click the link, chances are that we read that first paragraph of text paywalled articles usually show. That makes us interested/curious and we might pay to view it. We also feel more invested in the content after that first click. If we only have the title in the HN feed chances are lower that we will buy the conte…

Not rhetorical, I was really asking.

Thanks for clarifying.

Re: Should we use [paywall] tag where applicable?

#18

yes, please, especially when someone is liking Wall Street Journal here!

I fell into the trap of subscribing to the WSJ once. When you want to cancel your subscription, you have to call an international number where they try and stop you from canceling. There is no way to cancel online -- not only annoying but also against Dutch law.

Re: Should we use [paywall] tag where applicable?

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This would have been better as a poll. https://news.ycombinator.com/newpoll

The people submitting the article don't always know it's paywalled. Either they have a subscription; or they haven't hit their article limit this month; or the article is free for a few days and paywalled later.

So any tagging would be inconsistent.

Re: Should we use [paywall] tag where applicable?

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post #15
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wait, what? How would adding an indication that the article is paywalled inhibit/hamper support for high quality content? If an article is paywalled and I don't have any indication about this, I would open the link, notice it's paywalled and then decide whether to pay or not. If a tag is present, this just moves the decision early in the process. So, again, how would not using such a tag help support high quality jou…

I'm not sure if your question is rhetorical or not. But if you really are wondering, it's because if we click the link, chances are that we read that first paragraph of text paywalled articles usually show. That makes us interested/curious and we might pay to view it. We also feel more invested in the content after that first click. If we only have the title in the HN feed chances are lower that we will buy the conte…

I disagree with this line of thought.

Giving readers a fair warning is the right way to go.

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