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Chinese Workers Who Assemble Designer Bags in Italy

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Re: Chinese Workers Who Assemble Designer Bags in Italy

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Chinese owned a big chunk of Italian textile industry for quite a while. For at least 12~14 years, a big portion of made in Italy stuff were Chinese made.

Owning a factory in Italy can be quite cheaper than to do so in China, to a lot of people's surprise. An added benefit to it is that you can claim "Italian quality"

For more on topic stuff, if you are a Vancouverite, you can visit an Italian cafe by Gastown Starbucks that is ran by a lady from Wenzhou who speaks decent Italian.

Re: Chinese Workers Who Assemble Designer Bags in Italy

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When I was in Amsterdam I chatted with a guy. His job is to fly to Amsterdam and Milan, go to all the bespoke stores, buy up all their goods, and then take them to a shop which clones them for production-scale. I'd have thought the designers would be working with the producers at scale, but that's not how it works.

Re: Chinese Workers Who Assemble Designer Bags in Italy

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can't compare the right-wing in Europe and United States. For example in Sweden our right win party SD is much less about the free market and small government policies. Instead I would say the main goal of SD is to preserve Swedens generous welfare society.

Thats an odd way of looking at SD. There is a clear macroeconomic consensus that immigration is good for the economy as a whole, the GDP growth Sweden has enjoyed strongly support this. An SD government would be a threat to the Swedish welfare society. This is a party started not by right leaning nationalists but by actual nazis. Gustav Ekström, one of the founders of the party was a volunteer in the Waffen-SS in 194…

Please, enlighten us. How is it good for the economy to take in a massive influx of people who can't read even their own language? What Sweden has, is a huge population of people who's only income is from the state and that is not going to change. If GDP growth is the key to the kind of "economic growth" we want, why are we not just taking tens of millions of said people? Without the welfare state things would be different, people would actually have to be useful/productive and pay for their own lives. Too bad that is not going to happen before the system crashes.

Re: Chinese Workers Who Assemble Designer Bags in Italy

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post #12

When I was in Amsterdam I chatted with a guy. His job is to fly to Amsterdam and Milan, go to all the bespoke stores, buy up all their goods, and then take them to a shop which clones them for production-scale. I'd have thought the designers would be working with the producers at scale, but that's not how it works.

"Bespoke" means custom-tailored to an individual. I'm not sure if it makes sense to clone them for production-scale -- mass-produced clothing are cut to average measurements to fit as many people as possible.

Are you sure you meant bespoke?

Re: Chinese Workers Who Assemble Designer Bags in Italy

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As I read this, the New Yorker seemed to highlight the problems from a more leftist, social safety net perspective. The Chinese immigrants circumvented the tax code in every way they could - working under the table, starting unregistered businesses in garages and vans, living in the garages and vans, even dying secretly so their passports could be repurposed for new immigrants. This meant hospitals and other public s…

> I tend to be relatively laissez-faire in my tastes for both economic and immigration policy, but watching the right-wing in Europe and the United States reject the latter makes me think the sentiment comes from a deeper, visceral level.

That neatly encapsulates the downward spiral of left-wing thinking. You've become incapable of listening to anyone else's ideas without finding malicious underlying motives.

Re: Chinese Workers Who Assemble Designer Bags in Italy

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post #11

Chinese owned a big chunk of Italian textile industry for quite a while. For at least 12~14 years, a big portion of made in Italy stuff were Chinese made. Owning a factory in Italy can be quite cheaper than to do so in China, to a lot of people's surprise. An added benefit to it is that you can claim "Italian quality" For more on topic stuff, if you are a Vancouverite, you can visit an Italian cafe by Gastown Starbuc…

There's a town near Florence called Prato that has a large population of Wenzhou Chinese. Most work in the textile industry.

If you visit Milan's Chinatown, it is full of textile and clothing shops as opposed to most Chinatowns around the world which are dominated by food and grocery stores.

Re: Chinese Workers Who Assemble Designer Bags in Italy

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can't compare the right-wing in Europe and United States. For example in Sweden our right win party SD is much less about the free market and small government policies. Instead I would say the main goal of SD is to preserve Swedens generous welfare society.

Thats an odd way of looking at SD. There is a clear macroeconomic consensus that immigration is good for the economy as a whole, the GDP growth Sweden has enjoyed strongly support this. An SD government would be a threat to the Swedish welfare society. This is a party started not by right leaning nationalists but by actual nazis. Gustav Ekström, one of the founders of the party was a volunteer in the Waffen-SS in 194…

I bet the name "SD" is no accident...

Re: Chinese Workers Who Assemble Designer Bags in Italy

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post #15
post #12

When I was in Amsterdam I chatted with a guy. His job is to fly to Amsterdam and Milan, go to all the bespoke stores, buy up all their goods, and then take them to a shop which clones them for production-scale. I'd have thought the designers would be working with the producers at scale, but that's not how it works.

"Bespoke" means custom-tailored to an individual. I'm not sure if it makes sense to clone them for production-scale -- mass-produced clothing are cut to average measurements to fit as many people as possible. Are you sure you meant bespoke?

No, I guess I meant artisinal.

Re: Chinese Workers Who Assemble Designer Bags in Italy

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post #2

As I read this, the New Yorker seemed to highlight the problems from a more leftist, social safety net perspective. The Chinese immigrants circumvented the tax code in every way they could - working under the table, starting unregistered businesses in garages and vans, living in the garages and vans, even dying secretly so their passports could be repurposed for new immigrants. This meant hospitals and other public s…

It's interesting to me that you would see the economic arguments and assume they were a genuinely held first principle and not an inauthentic PR line meant to resonate with the more base fear and hatred.

In the United States at least there is a long history of this. Go look up what Lee Atwater said about the southern strategy. Summary: they embraced lines about low taxes and small government because it was getting impolite to campaign with the n word.

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