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These are incredibly sad, not only for what they leave out or obfuscate, but especially for what they felt it necessary to include. They seem like the notes of a flunky, not a Harvard grad.

Re: Photo of Zuck's notes

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post #12

These are incredibly sad, not only for what they leave out or obfuscate, but especially for what they felt it necessary to include. They seem like the notes of a flunky, not a Harvard grad.

The contents certainly might be, but I think having a reference sheet like this is the absolute minimum for this sort of hearing, to maintain any sort of coherent argument. There's certainly enough to attack in the contents, rather than the fact that he had these notes or needed them.

Re: Photo of Zuck's notes

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post #3

Most fascinating part of these notes for me: > "US Tech companies key asset for America; Breakup strengthens Chinese companies" Is China the new anti-regulation boogieman? Can somebody who understands the domain better than me explain how keeping facebook from continuing to acquire tangential businesses (whatsapp, insta)/forcing them to split those already acquired back out would give power to Chinese competitors? Or…

monopolies are good, mmkay.

Re: Photo of Zuck's notes

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post #9

I am profoundly uncomfortable with this sort of propaganda. It's straight out of the Bernays/Lipmann playbook of yore.

Perhaps a breach of privacy, but propaganda?

The Tim Cook section is clearly spin, presumes the Congress critters can’t see through it.

- My dog doesn’t bite but if it did, his dog bites too.

- My dog bites, but you should complain about his dog.

In this case, MZ dog bit you; TC dog asks first, defaults all off, and asks again every new thing.

More spin, Apple got plenty bad press for e.g. Path, Uber, exploits or misuses, gave quick fixes then deeper global changes.

Most importantly continues a clear theme of user data ownership, privacy and protection. This dog tries to not bite.

False equivalency and misdirections are spin.

Re: Photo of Zuck's notes

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post #9

I am profoundly uncomfortable with this sort of propaganda. It's straight out of the Bernays/Lipmann playbook of yore.

Perhaps a breach of privacy, but propaganda?

Propaganda is fundamentally about convincing people of things that, if believed, are beneficial to you-- regardless of whether they're true. Accordingly, this often includes "spin."

- CA Section: It's someone else's fault.

- Compensation: Misdirection, obviously false statements (e.g. "It couldn't happen now")

- Scraping: Lies (e.g. "found out about [scraping] abuse 2 weeks ago")

- Accountability: Act as if it's only about firing people.

- Data safety: Not actually addressed.

- Business model: Actual lies (e.g. "FB doesn't sell data")

Re: Photo of Zuck's notes

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps a breach of privacy, but propaganda?

Propaganda is fundamentally about convincing people of things that, if believed, are beneficial to you-- regardless of whether they're true. Accordingly, this often includes "spin." - CA Section: It's someone else's fault. - Compensation: Misdirection, obviously false statements (e.g. "It couldn't happen now") - Scraping: Lies (e.g. "found out about [scraping] abuse 2 weeks ago") - Accountability: Act as if it's only…

Oh, I understood that posting the photo was propaganda, not the actual content of the notes. I guess the meaning of the parent post was ambiguous.
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