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Re: Homeland Security to Compile Database of Journalists, Bloggers

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First, this is somewhat ambitious... Second, what's the purpose of this? I can imagine it'll be quite useful to BBG properties like Voice of America, RadioFreeEurope and generally US government PR/propaganda, but how am I supposed to not worry that this will be used for censorship via US-based companies and some future law combating "fake news" and/or "hate speech"?

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Re: Homeland Security to Compile Database of Journalists, Bloggers

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"Despite what some reporters may suggest, this is nothing more than the standard practice of monitoring current events in the media. Any suggestion otherwise is fit for tin foil hat wearing, black helicopter conspiracy theorists." — https://twitter.com/SpoxDHS/status/982372727309963264

You're not a tin foil hat wearing, black helicopter conspiracy theorist, now are you?

Re: Homeland Security to Compile Database of Journalists, Bloggers

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First, this is somewhat ambitious... Second, what's the purpose of this? I can imagine it'll be quite useful to BBG properties like Voice of America, RadioFreeEurope and generally US government PR/propaganda, but how am I supposed to not worry that this will be used for censorship via US-based companies and some future law combating "fake news" and/or "hate speech"?

1. You got to start somewhere. 2. Data is valuable. 3. You can't. As you built more capabilities to process the data it becomes more valuable. Incidentally that is why I think Facebook is so valuable. Cambridge Analytica managed to affect U.S. elections with a small subset of this data.

Cambridge Analytica served ads to people. This is something that all candidates, campaigns and their affiliates do. Sure it collected data on people through sketchy means, but the essential part of its work was to serve advertisements.

Similar companies have been employed by virtually every other presidential candidate in the last decade.

We can't be mad at CA without being mad at the entirety of industrial political adveritising.

Re: Homeland Security to Compile Database of Journalists, Bloggers

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1. You got to start somewhere. 2. Data is valuable. 3. You can't. As you built more capabilities to process the data it becomes more valuable. Incidentally that is why I think Facebook is so valuable. Cambridge Analytica managed to affect U.S. elections with a small subset of this data.

> Cambridge Analytica managed to affect U.S. elections with a small subset of this data. Is this an accepted fact now? I know they tried but is there hard proof that without them it would have been a different outcome?

Answering that question may be the purpose of this request - since no one knows the state of discourse prior to or after any identified propaganda/ads, it's rather hard to assign any impact. By monitoring the discourse, DHS can then measure changes in sentiment on salient features in order to measure the impact of various propaganda/ad campaigns.

That being said, I think DHS might be going a bit overboard as far as the monitoring goes.

Re: Homeland Security to Compile Database of Journalists, Bloggers

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1. You got to start somewhere. 2. Data is valuable. 3. You can't. As you built more capabilities to process the data it becomes more valuable. Incidentally that is why I think Facebook is so valuable. Cambridge Analytica managed to affect U.S. elections with a small subset of this data.

> Cambridge Analytica managed to affect U.S. elections with a small subset of this data. Is this an accepted fact now? I know they tried but is there hard proof that without them it would have been a different outcome?

Their ex-CEO claims they did, FWIW [1].

[1] http://www.straitstimes.com/world/united-states/cambridge-an...

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