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iOS, the Future of MacOS, Freedom, Security and Privacy

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Re: iOS, the Future of MacOS, Freedom, Security and Privacy

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not trust Linux? No activation, full control over all the processes. Seems like a good solution for people who "care".

User experience and usability.

Sure, but that has nothing to do with the notion of trust we're talking about here.

Re: iOS, the Future of MacOS, Freedom, Security and Privacy

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

User experience and usability.

Sure, but that has nothing to do with the notion of trust we're talking about here.

Perhaps, but if poor UX prevents a user from using an ostensibly more secure platform, then security of said platform doesn’t enter into the consideration at all.

Re: iOS, the Future of MacOS, Freedom, Security and Privacy

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What do you do? Windows world is worse. So is Android generally. Use Linux? How do you trust that? QubesOS? Pen and paper? If you walk outside, you’re on camera. Living off grid with no phone or computer seals the deal, but not very practical. I’m all about security and privacy, but everything is on balance with practically. If a three digit govt agency wants to find you, they have so many other ways than Apple.

Why not trust Linux? No activation, full control over all the processes. Seems like a good solution for people who "care".

It's good in theory but in practice you'd need to spend a lot of time and money doing deep audits yourself, both hardware and software. That just really isn't a worthwhile investment for the vast, vast, majority of people.

At the end of the day it all still boils down to trust based on reputation, incentives and oversight. Openness is important but no panacea.

Re: iOS, the Future of MacOS, Freedom, Security and Privacy

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not trust Linux? No activation, full control over all the processes. Seems like a good solution for people who "care".

User experience and usability.

That has nothing to do with trust and is highly subjective.

Re: iOS, the Future of MacOS, Freedom, Security and Privacy

#16
post #2

I am no connaisseur , just a guy who cares about privacy (in general and his in particular) who also happens to own an iPhone and wants to buy a Mac. This seems pretty troubling, as I as well as many I suppose, trust Apple and think that they're one of the good guys. I know it's cliché but I think this is the part where "[..] live long enough to see yourself become the villain." applies. The more important question,…

What do you do? Windows world is worse. So is Android generally. Use Linux? How do you trust that? QubesOS? Pen and paper? If you walk outside, you’re on camera. Living off grid with no phone or computer seals the deal, but not very practical. I’m all about security and privacy, but everything is on balance with practically. If a three digit govt agency wants to find you, they have so many other ways than Apple.

> I’m all about security and privacy, but everything is on balance with practically. If a three digit govt agency wants to find you, they have so many other ways than Apple.

Can't argue with that.

Re: iOS, the Future of MacOS, Freedom, Security and Privacy

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post #5
post #3

How old is this? the state and details of disk encryption on both OSes is slightly unclear, but hopefully will become clearer when iOS 10.3 is released. 10.3 was released 9 months ago. And I find it hard to take seriously any article where every other sentence is bolded.

Answering my own question - the original gist was posted in March 2017.

OK thanks, we'll add that.

Re: iOS, the Future of MacOS, Freedom, Security and Privacy

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post #5
post #3

How old is this? the state and details of disk encryption on both OSes is slightly unclear, but hopefully will become clearer when iOS 10.3 is released. 10.3 was released 9 months ago. And I find it hard to take seriously any article where every other sentence is bolded.

Answering my own question - the original gist was posted in March 2017.

Haven't RTFA, but my judging that the link is Andrew Desantis's fork I'd guess there's interest by the submitter in gauging interest in his Deos project which leverages the darwin kernel.

I feel like one may have to understand his preferences towards bitcoin, libertarianism, etc. though to truly get the deos vision to discern whether it's actually a better solution or a sleight of hand. I don't follow desantis or the bitcoin community closely enough to know.

Re: iOS, the Future of MacOS, Freedom, Security and Privacy

#20
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, but that has nothing to do with the notion of trust we're talking about here.

Perhaps, but if poor UX prevents a user from using an ostensibly more secure platform, then security of said platform doesn’t enter into the consideration at all.

Yes, we're all well aware. That's NOT what I'm talking about though. I'm responding to "Use Linux? How do you trust that?".

Please think about things before aimlessly countering someone's question.

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