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As Facebook Struggles, Rivals’ Leaders Stay Mostly Mum

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lol, what did you expect? I worked at Microsoft when the Playstation got hacked. They were like, "let's not say anything and attract attention from the hackers."

Thats kind of sinister.

Is it "sinister" to not want to also get hacked? Hackers love a challenge, the worst thing you could do in response to a competitor getting hacked is suggest you aren't as vulnerable. It's basically an invitation.

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I've been wondering for a few years now what it would look like if one of these tech behemoths collapsed, mainly in the context of how intertwined and globalized they all are now. We're also not allowed to talk about how important and integrated these companies are with the defense industry, but they are. Lots of people working on lots of projects that they can't put on their resume. Some of these companies are pract…

AOL and Yahoo are now both properties of Verizon.

The idea that one of these companies could fall in a "literally just gone from the Internet" standpoint isn't realistic. They're worth too much, and someone will buy them for some amount, and keep the basics of their company online.

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The elephant in the room is not Facebook. Its the generations of people who have, over the last 10 years, grown up to assume that their personal lives are of interest to others, and wish therefore to capitalize/profit on exposing their life to strangers. This is going to be a much more difficult precipice to step back from than, say, the rampant piracy of things like Napster, and so on. We'll definitely have to push…

The notion that parents are always or even usually wise and responsible, that seems like a very shaky foundation upon which to repair a culture. Homer Simpson “beat” Dr. Huxtable, after all, quite handily...

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The elephant in the room is not Facebook. Its the generations of people who have, over the last 10 years, grown up to assume that their personal lives are of interest to others, and wish therefore to capitalize/profit on exposing their life to strangers. This is going to be a much more difficult precipice to step back from than, say, the rampant piracy of things like Napster, and so on. We'll definitely have to push…

> assume that their personal lives are of interest to others

Celebrities and self-promoters have existed forever. As have gossips. Generally people are interested in others' personal lives.

> parental control

This is going to be an endless battle, and will come with ludicrous comparisons to the various ages of personal responsibility. You can as easily end underage internet chatting as you can end underage drinking.

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Snapchat is definitely not staying mum this April Fool's https://twitter.com/CaseyNewton/status/980341288753967109

It's disappointing how this kind of commentary, disparaging a whole nation/language instead of a government/chief of state, is seeping into mass media. Another recent example is the mock-Cyrillic in the Silicon Valley intro.

It stops being about Putin, the Russian government, leading Russian politicians, Russian oligarchs or some identifiable group. It becomes "the Russians".

(It's not a new phenomenon—remember Dr. Seuss's cartoons about the Japanese?—but it's being done by people who arguably didn't skip the lessons about the problems with national exceptionalism and just recently were making sure everyone knew that.)

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Snapchat is definitely not staying mum this April Fool's https://twitter.com/CaseyNewton/status/980341288753967109

It's disappointing how this kind of commentary, disparaging a whole nation/language instead of a government/chief of state, is seeping into mass media. Another recent example is the mock-Cyrillic in the Silicon Valley intro. It stops being about Putin , the Russian government , leading Russian politicians , Russian oligarchs or some identifiable group. It becomes "the Russians". (It's not a new phenomenon—remember Dr…

That tends to happen when you’re supposed to be living in a democracy.

At least with the Soviets there was no pretending.

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The elephant in the room is not Facebook. Its the generations of people who have, over the last 10 years, grown up to assume that their personal lives are of interest to others, and wish therefore to capitalize/profit on exposing their life to strangers. This is going to be a much more difficult precipice to step back from than, say, the rampant piracy of things like Napster, and so on. We'll definitely have to push…

> And, in addition, we have to establish that parents should regulate their kids' use of online/social media tools in such a way that we reduce the devolutionary effect on human interaction that is occurring now.

Basically: yes! But with lots of caveats.

- Parents shouldn't be able to play Big Brother in their children's lives - it's important for all kinds of reasons, especially sexual development, that children and teenagers get to have a safe degree of privacy e.g. son who's gay vs father who's homophobic

- "I blame the parents" needs to be eliminated from the conversation. Parenting today is full of bad compromises e.g. give your kids access to social media and expose them to a random stream of cultural influences vs. isolate them and risk social exclusion. And most parents anyway have little extra time / energy for keeping tabs on whether your child's use of a VR headset or whatever latest consumer tech found its way into your household is harmful or not.

- we need to exercise collective wisdom on what social media does to children. Seeing my daughter using musical.ly for example really makes we wonder if we're training a generation of narcissists.

...and that's just three off the top of my head

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's disappointing how this kind of commentary, disparaging a whole nation/language instead of a government/chief of state, is seeping into mass media. Another recent example is the mock-Cyrillic in the Silicon Valley intro. It stops being about Putin , the Russian government , leading Russian politicians , Russian oligarchs or some identifiable group. It becomes "the Russians". (It's not a new phenomenon—remember Dr…

That tends to happen when you’re supposed to be living in a democracy. At least with the Soviets there was no pretending.

There was plenty of pretending in the Soviet Union. Perhaps even more.
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