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This reminds me of the long conversations that I used to have with family members and friends several years ago. With their continuous requests to create my own Facebook profile so I can keep in contact with them and with their activities as well as to share my whereabouts. I always used the same argument to reject these suggestions — "I don't want Facebook to have too much data about me, more than the data that you…

"I am sure that the deletion of media files in services like Facebook has never meant to be absolute." This is very common, I'm sure. There should be a way to request or a right to request permanent deletion, by law, of one's data on site like Facebook. That said, once something is on the internet, anyone can and will archive it (see https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/). Closing an account, however, should imply permanent deletion. Companies are instead able to operate in a gray area through terms of service agreements that knowingly play on the ignorance of the end user. This common and widespread behavior is a detriment to the user and (arguably) society at-large.

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please don't post unsubstantive comments here.

I don't think pointing out how disconnected half of the userbase here is is unsubstantive. 99% of people who use Facebook has not the fainstest idea of what Facebook is doing, why they're doing it, and why it might be wrong. Still, on each of these threads the top comment invariably starts with "why is anyone surprised that.. etc". I could find you links to prove my point, but I'm can't believe you're not aware of th…

HN users live in this weird Silicon Valley bubble that is divorced from the real world..

Re: Facebook Secretly Saved Videos Users Deleted

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This reminds me of the long conversations that I used to have with family members and friends several years ago. With their continuous requests to create my own Facebook profile so I can keep in contact with them and with their activities as well as to share my whereabouts. I always used the same argument to reject these suggestions — "I don't want Facebook to have too much data about me, more than the data that you…

> I am sure that the deletion of media files in services like Facebook has never meant to be absolute. Many of my colleagues believe the same thing that I believe: Facebook and other services do not actually delete data, they just mark it as "deleted" and purge it only if they need the space.

This is a dumb conspiracy theory. Facebook has made plenty of public statements that say otherwise, and there's a whole team that works on the system that ensures every trace is erased from disks, logs, cold storage and backups when deleting content.

Re: Facebook Secretly Saved Videos Users Deleted

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This reminds me of the long conversations that I used to have with family members and friends several years ago. With their continuous requests to create my own Facebook profile so I can keep in contact with them and with their activities as well as to share my whereabouts. I always used the same argument to reject these suggestions — "I don't want Facebook to have too much data about me, more than the data that you…

Facebook is powerful and insular. Taking it down requires extraordinary organisation. Outrage is helpful in that respect. Agreement is better than disagreement. Would I prefer we had agreement earlier? Yes. Is agreement today better than agreement tomorrow? Absolutely. Now that we have a constituency, the important thing is to mobilise. The past is in the past. Our job, in the present, is to protect the future.

You think people could organize better than against Trump ? seems unlikely

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post #5

Meanwhile: http://fortune.com/2018/03/31/facebook-employees-are-reporte...

that link doesn't work for me... this one appears to be the same thing: http://start.att.net/news/read/category/politics/article/for...

Sorry about that. Its just a brief article.

Heres a no-Javascript version:

    curl -o 1.htm  http://amp.timeinc.net/fortune/2018/03/31/facebook-employees-are-reportedly-deleting-controversial-internal-messages

    sed -i '/

/,//!d' 1.htm ; firefox file:///1.htm ;

Re: Facebook Secretly Saved Videos Users Deleted

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Just an anecdote. I had a day set aside to purging my Facebook entries a year or two back. I manually deleted comments and posts.

Of course there was too many to do and it was very boring so I only spent a couple of hours at it. But that's nots what's interesting. What happened was that I got a huge uptake of people commenting on some old post I made, like a profile picture change. I think Facebook saw I was purging my data slowly and reached out to my FB contacts encouraging them to interact more with me. It was very odd.

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