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Why You Must Embrace Rejection to Succeed

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Re: Why You Must Embrace Rejection to Succeed

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Not just rejection, but failure. It's not how we succeed that defines us, but how we crash and burn. Those that get up, no matter how many times they are beaten down, are the ones that eventually succeed. Those who give up are the true failures.

donw - I absolutely agree. It is all about getting up and ride again. I dedicate an entire chapter to my dad "who taught me how to ride a bicycle". http://www.lovemytool.com/blog/2007/10/riding-a-bike.html

I am loathe to click on a link to a site titled 'Love My Tool'... :)

Re: Why You Must Embrace Rejection to Succeed

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donw - I absolutely agree. It is all about getting up and ride again. I dedicate an entire chapter to my dad "who taught me how to ride a bicycle". http://www.lovemytool.com/blog/2007/10/riding-a-bike.html

I am loathe to click on a link to a site titled 'Love My Tool'... :)

I know, I get that a lot. I live in San Francisco so if the site doesn't work for an "online community for network monitoring TOOLS", I have other plans.

Re: Why You Must Embrace Rejection to Succeed

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As a side note, this article made me check out the resume of the author of that essay it references. Started college at 12? Graduated at 17 with a double BS in CoSci and Physics? University Medal in CoSci? All sorts of scholarships and awards. And yet rejected by YC. That's a pretty glaring big data point that says YC's claim about choosing people, not ideas is junk. They probably didn't even read her resume because…

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Re: Why You Must Embrace Rejection to Succeed

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Being a child prodigy, and excelling in school, doesn't necessarily make her a good bet as an entrepreneur, however amazingly talented she might be. Or, YC might have missed the boat big-time on this one, and she's going to go off and found the next Google. No selection process is perfect, people make mistakes, and one data point does not a trend make.

> doesn't necessarily make her a good bet as an entrepreneur, however amazingly talented she might be. Yes, yes it does make her a good bet . If you are betting , bet on people with immense talent and drive. Who else are you going to bet on, people with far less talent and drive? I think you're confusing "good bet" with " guaranteed to be more successful". > No selection process is perfect Yes, but there's a huge gul…

No it doesn't. It makes her a good bet to go get another masters or PHD, but being an entrepreneur is a completely different skill set. While her accomplishments are grand in their own right, they're also rather focused.

There's nothing in and of itself on the resume that shows that she's had to work to overcome a default, or has experience building a company, or that she can think on her feet, for example. Although she may in fact possess these skills, I wouldn't take them as a given simply because she has a lot of book smarts.

Re: Why You Must Embrace Rejection to Succeed

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> doesn't necessarily make her a good bet as an entrepreneur, however amazingly talented she might be. Yes, yes it does make her a good bet . If you are betting , bet on people with immense talent and drive. Who else are you going to bet on, people with far less talent and drive? I think you're confusing "good bet" with " guaranteed to be more successful". > No selection process is perfect Yes, but there's a huge gul…

No it doesn't. It makes her a good bet to go get another masters or PHD, but being an entrepreneur is a completely different skill set. While her accomplishments are grand in their own right, they're also rather focused. There's nothing in and of itself on the resume that shows that she's had to work to overcome a default, or has experience building a company, or that she can think on her feet, for example. Although…

> but being an entrepreneur

Means you need people who can actually do shit. If you need people with business experience then a program that connects you with investors makes perfect sense. Investors need people like her. Thus the rejection was a mistake.

> or has experienced building a company

Neither did Google! That's why you partner with investors who have experience. Duh!

> or that she can think on her feet, for example.

Really bad example in this case.

> I wouldn't take them as a given

A given?!? What is a "given" in a venture?!?

You're making the same mistake with "good bet" when you really mean "guarantee".

Re: Why You Must Embrace Rejection to Succeed

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No it doesn't. It makes her a good bet to go get another masters or PHD, but being an entrepreneur is a completely different skill set. While her accomplishments are grand in their own right, they're also rather focused. There's nothing in and of itself on the resume that shows that she's had to work to overcome a default, or has experience building a company, or that she can think on her feet, for example. Although…

> but being an entrepreneur Means you need people who can actually do shit. If you need people with business experience then a program that connects you with investors makes perfect sense. Investors need people like her. Thus the rejection was a mistake. > or has experienced building a company Neither did Google! That's why you partner with investors who have experience. Duh! > or that she can think on her feet, for…

freax, I don't know you, but given your responses to this and that other thread, I would highly suggest that if you're looking to be successful, you should put some of that emotional response that you're directing towards me into positive action for your venture.

There are many people on this forum that will be there to help you in the future, but if you catch a name as a person who is a little to sharp to quip with pure emotion, they will have second thoughts.

It's not a big deal, and it's not personal - don't make it so.

Cheers.

Re: Why You Must Embrace Rejection to Succeed

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> but being an entrepreneur Means you need people who can actually do shit. If you need people with business experience then a program that connects you with investors makes perfect sense. Investors need people like her. Thus the rejection was a mistake. > or has experienced building a company Neither did Google! That's why you partner with investors who have experience. Duh! > or that she can think on her feet, for…

freax, I don't know you, but given your responses to this and that other thread, I would highly suggest that if you're looking to be successful, you should put some of that emotional response that you're directing towards me into positive action for your venture. There are many people on this forum that will be there to help you in the future, but if you catch a name as a person who is a little to sharp to quip with…

I'm only harsh on people who are bigoted (like you were in the other thread) or who refuse to get the point despite things being spelled out clearly and who lack a sense of humor. Good luck being successful with that trifecta!

No, really, good luck. I would be quite impressed if you succeeded despite all these apparent impediments. It would give hope to your bigoted, no-sense-of-humor short-bus upmodders. There are a lot more of them than Keepers Of Truth(tm) and Knowledge Kninjas(R) like myself.

Re: Why You Must Embrace Rejection to Succeed

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> but being an entrepreneur Means you need people who can actually do shit. If you need people with business experience then a program that connects you with investors makes perfect sense. Investors need people like her. Thus the rejection was a mistake. > or has experienced building a company Neither did Google! That's why you partner with investors who have experience. Duh! > or that she can think on her feet, for…

freax, I don't know you, but given your responses to this and that other thread, I would highly suggest that if you're looking to be successful, you should put some of that emotional response that you're directing towards me into positive action for your venture. There are many people on this forum that will be there to help you in the future, but if you catch a name as a person who is a little to sharp to quip with…

run4yourlives - I agree with you. Everyone has a plan until they get into the ring. It is always best to preserve dry powder for the real fight. Being constructive and making allowance for other people's opinion go a long way in this business.
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