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Newly-discovered human organ may help explain how cancer spreads

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Re: Newly-discovered human organ may help explain how cancer spreads

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Post by DoreenMichele »

JeanMarcS wrote: post #6

Noob question (as I’m not a biologist at all, knowing nothing about this field) : is it a possible explaination for the whole « energy flowing in the body » thing ? If there in fact is a network of fluid inside the body that we didn’t know about before, can’t it explain ?

If you mean like chi or chakra type energy flow, chakras are generally centered on hormone producing organs. A flush of hormones seems the most likely source or explanation for known sensations like kundalini.

Though I am not clear if that is what you are asking about.

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Post by dboreham »

aldoushuxley001 wrote: post #10
fredch wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, bodily "energy flows" are all in the head. It's very easy to think yourself into all sorts of physical sensations.

where in the head? Is there a region in the brain this occurs?

HPA?

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Post by pygy_ »

aldoushuxley001 wrote: post #10
fredch wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, bodily "energy flows" are all in the head. It's very easy to think yourself into all sorts of physical sensations.

where in the head? Is there a region in the brain this occurs?

Most likely somatosensory thalamocoritcal networks (the anterior parts of the parietal lobe and the corresponding thalamus). Maybe the insula, which is involved in visceral sensations as well.

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Post by ShabbosGoy »

JeanMarcS wrote: post #6

Noob question (as I’m not a biologist at all, knowing nothing about this field) : is it a possible explaination for the whole « energy flowing in the body » thing ? If there in fact is a network of fluid inside the body that we didn’t know about before, can’t it explain ?

That has more to do with conscious control of your vagus nerve for mindful breathing.

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Post by dsr_ »

aldoushuxley001 wrote: post #10
fredch wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, bodily "energy flows" are all in the head. It's very easy to think yourself into all sorts of physical sensations.

where in the head? Is there a region in the brain this occurs?

Possibly:

https://www.york.ac.uk/news-and-events/news/2015/research/ps...

Re: Newly-discovered human organ may help explain how cancer spreads

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Post by joe_the_user »

fredch wrote: post #9
joe_the_user wrote: post #3

Wow, It sound not like a new organ was discovered but that it been discovered that the fascia[1] have these tubes and that the fascia really is an organ. In studying message, a lot of approaches already treat the fascia as an active, responsive organ rather than as a passive collection of fibrous tissue. The science behind this has been considered murky at best. Now there, at least, is an explanation. The topic is de…

This seems more like an extension of the lymphatic system; also you're confusing musculoskeletal fascia with ground substance.

The linked Wikipedia article considers the substance that organs rest on, such as the pericardium, to be part of the fascia system. Though the muscle fascia and organ fascia distinction is worth keeping in mind, the article implies that tubes have been found in both.

Also, I think whether these tubes are part of lymphic system is speculation at this point. The main thing is that they havne't considered in anatomy because they're destroyed by embalming.

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Post by nsouth »

fredch wrote: post #8
JeanMarcS wrote: post #6

Noob question (as I’m not a biologist at all, knowing nothing about this field) : is it a possible explaination for the whole « energy flowing in the body » thing ? If there in fact is a network of fluid inside the body that we didn’t know about before, can’t it explain ?

No, bodily "energy flows" are all in the head. It's very easy to think yourself into all sorts of physical sensations.

So how do you explain the ability for a man to delay orgasm as long as desired through tantric sex? The technique is to draw energy upwards from the genitals so as not to reach an energetic "critical mass" and trigger the "usual reflex".

However if you were to mean that energy flows are controlled by the mind, then you'd be bang on. "Where the mind goes, the chi flows" as they say.

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Post by adventured »

OrganicMSG wrote: post #2

I wonder how many organs are left to find. Was only recently they added the mesentery to the list.

I thought it was pretty astounding two years ago when researchers at UVA found a direct link between the brain and immune system that wasn't previously known to exist.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/important-link-be...

Re: Newly-discovered human organ may help explain how cancer spreads

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Post by nsouth »

dsr_ wrote: post #16
aldoushuxley001 wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

where in the head? Is there a region in the brain this occurs?

Possibly: https://www.york.ac.uk/news-and-events/news/2015/research/ps...

The thing is, if I see a fire and put my hand in it, I'll experience pain. An MRI scanner would be able to detect certain parts of my brain being excited.

If my brain was then artificially stimulated in the same region, no doubt I'd feel the same pain again. However, none of this means that the fire wasn't real in the first place.

Of course, it's interesting because perhaps the fire isn't real and it's just some fringe part of the brain playing up, but I'm not sure how you'd go about designing an experiment to work that out (i.e. whether the circuits exist because the fire is real, or whether they've evolved some anomalous behaviour).

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