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Personal Reason for Hating Facebook (2015)

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Re: Personal Reason for Hating Facebook (2015)

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Post by ExcelSaga »

jakequade wrote: post #7

Sorry, but for the most part this sounds stupid. You're hating a widespread method of communication because it doesn't work for you _when you're not using it_. That's like complaining that no one text messages you if you never opted in to owning a phone.

I hate that, if I somehow don’t want to consign my personal data, beliefs, preferences, relationships, work history, daily plans, and private messages to a massive advertising corporation, I have to risk missing out on seminal life events. Not being on Facebook is sort of like not having a cellphone. Sure, me and a small number of weirdos can opt out, but we are increasingly disadvantaged by it.

I think that’s a good point, well stated, and your dismissal is rude and without depth. Owning a phone doesn’t necessitate giving something like Facebook access to your whole life. When a means of communication becomes a utility (as you’re describing), it has responsibilities and regulations.

As of 2015, this blog was on the nose.

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Post by graeme »

xapata wrote: post #2

Note that carrying a smartphone and using a credit card is entrusting a great deal of information to advertising companies. All major phone and credit companies are selling your data (anonymized, to the degree they feel is optimal). I'm not sure that Facebook is any worse. To be more clear: They know where you go, who you call and text, and what you buy.

Even on iphone with content blockers running and location services disabled for most apps except while using?

Referring to ad companies here, not NSA etc

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Post by ExcelSaga »

FargoPelz wrote: post #10

If you're concerned about "consign[ing] my personal data, beliefs, preferences, relationships, work history, daily plans, and private messages to a massive advertising corporation" but don't want to miss out on seminal life events, why not just maintain a Facebook account without ever posting to it? As long as you remain friends with people you need to keep in touch with, but never post anything or fill out your pers…

Naive. Facebook does more than just passively let you fill out surveys, with their Pixel and snooping on your texts and contacts being just a couple of examples.

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Post by brianfitz »

I remember reading this when it was originally posted years ago and have had time to think about the implications. I am just over 40, so most of my class reunions were organized through Facebook and was amazed at the turn-out possible because of these new social networks. For my mother, there were simply people she no longer knew how to reach — including one of her best friends from childhood. Years went by until Facebook gained traction and they were reunited.

The point being, it is just as likely that the writer of this post wasn’t left out any more than he would have been in the past. What has possibly changed is that a funeral lightly attended by only a few in the past could now reach the many. In the past, he would have missed hearing about the death and would have missed the funeral. In the present, the same thing happened but now feels left out.

It’s a benefit to the mother who lost her child, but a detriment to the friend who feels left behind.

Re: Personal Reason for Hating Facebook (2015)

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Post by FargoPelz »

tunesmith wrote: post #4

Honestly, this is true even if you're on facebook, if the algorithms don't feel like putting the event in your feed.

When someone invites you to an event, you receive a notification. You will be directly informed, you don't have to see it in your feed.

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Post by astura »

jakequade wrote: post #7

Sorry, but for the most part this sounds stupid. You're hating a widespread method of communication because it doesn't work for you _when you're not using it_. That's like complaining that no one text messages you if you never opted in to owning a phone.

Yeah, and it's really baffling that someone who is a self described "introvert," who goes years without speaking to people they consider close friends, is upset they didn't get an invite to a high school reunion!?!? Why would someone like that want to attend a high school reunion in the first place?

They didn't get an invite because they don't stay in communication with people, not because they don't have a Facebook!!!

I'm not really sure why they'd expect to hear directly from the mom. When a person dies, the information is spread like a web, the next-of-kin very rarely informs everyone directly. Usually they inform their close circle and the close circle of the deceased. Then those people spread the word. 100% of the time I've been informed of a death it was by someone in my close circle, not the next-of-kin. Since the author doesn't keep communication with their "friends," they got overlooked. That's very sad and shitty, but it doesn't have to do with Facebook.

Re: Personal Reason for Hating Facebook (2015)

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Post by jacquesm »

graeme wrote: post #13
xapata wrote: post #2

Note that carrying a smartphone and using a credit card is entrusting a great deal of information to advertising companies. All major phone and credit companies are selling your data (anonymized, to the degree they feel is optimal). I'm not sure that Facebook is any worse. To be more clear: They know where you go, who you call and text, and what you buy.

Even on iphone with content blockers running and location services disabled for most apps except while using? Referring to ad companies here, not NSA etc

Yep. Unless you disable your WiFi and only use a VPN while you are connecting to the web via your phone.

Re: Personal Reason for Hating Facebook (2015)

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Post by FargoPelz »

ExcelSaga wrote: post #14
FargoPelz wrote: post #10

If you're concerned about "consign[ing] my personal data, beliefs, preferences, relationships, work history, daily plans, and private messages to a massive advertising corporation" but don't want to miss out on seminal life events, why not just maintain a Facebook account without ever posting to it? As long as you remain friends with people you need to keep in touch with, but never post anything or fill out your pers…

Naive. Facebook does more than just passively let you fill out surveys, with their Pixel and snooping on your texts and contacts being just a couple of examples.

Could you elaborate? I'm concerned about these things myself, so I already don't use the Facebook app on my phone. What else can they collect?
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