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Facebook tracks all calls and messages on Android

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Re: Facebook tracks all calls and messages on Android

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isn't this the expected behavior for apps that you give the sms / voice call / contacts permissions to? i would be surprised if any such app did not display my call/sms history and autocomplete contacts.

Its not unexpected, but still alarming given the recent news on how and the extent to which third party apps are mining your data/sending targeted ads/manipulating people with data that's given for a benign purpose like inviting friends from your contacts (Trojan horse).

Re: Facebook tracks all calls and messages on Android

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Is this really surprising to anyone? I'm surprised that this information as available to download, but I'm guessing that's not because Facebook wants to provide it (there's probably laws in New Zealand which force this?).

> Is this really surprising to anyone?

Does it matter?

Re: Facebook tracks all calls and messages on Android

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post #4

isn't this the expected behavior for apps that you give the sms / voice call / contacts permissions to? i would be surprised if any such app did not display my call/sms history and autocomplete contacts.

I think it would be expected for local access, on the device where the data was originally stored. It is wholly unacceptable for them to upload that data. If someone has my name and phone number and installs Facebook, they have just given Facebook all of my personal information.

That is how mobile messengers like Telegram work - when you install them, they upload your contact list to their servers to "improve your experience".

Re: Facebook tracks all calls and messages on Android

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post #4

isn't this the expected behavior for apps that you give the sms / voice call / contacts permissions to? i would be surprised if any such app did not display my call/sms history and autocomplete contacts.

Its not unexpected, but still alarming given the recent news on how and the extent to which third party apps are mining your data/sending targeted ads/manipulating people with data that's given for a benign purpose like inviting friends from your contacts (Trojan horse).

As I understand once some app gets your data, is USA there is a freedom to do whatever the company wants, and sell or share them with anyone including the governemnt.

At least Wikipedia says [1]:

> In general terms, in the U.S., whoever can be troubled to key in the data, is deemed to own the right to store and use it, even if the data was collected without permission, except to any extent regulated by laws and rules...

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_privacy_law#United...

Re: Facebook tracks all calls and messages on Android

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Android 6.0 was the first version to implement permission control. Looks like this guy was running 5.1, so we at least know how Facebook got access to that info. Doesn't justify it though.

Android always had permissions:

https://developer.android.com/guide/topics/manifest/permissi... (see "introduced in")

Many apps request the phone permission to change their behavior on incoming calls, or during calls. For example, they would stop playing audio.

Access to text messages is sometimes requested to automate text message-based one time pad flows for the user.

Re: Facebook tracks all calls and messages on Android

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does that make it right for Facebook to gather this data? It seems entirely unnecessary.

If I'm understanding the other comments in the thread then the behavior is based on how Android worked in that older version... e.g. if (on) { /* execute code for said feature */ } Which implies: " In the version of Android mentioned the on flag is on when you install. It was a feature of that version of Android to turn it on... how can FB know you didn't want it on?"

> It was a feature of that version of Android to turn it on... how can FB know you didn't want it on?"

What user wants that "feature" on? (or at least to send the data to Facebook for storage)

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