Doctor Gets 4 Years in Prison for Insys Opioid Kickbacks

Post by onetimemanytime » Sun, Mar 11, 2018, 9:42 PM UTC

astura wrote: post #8

efini wrote: post #5

Will Trump support the execution of this man and other legal drug dealers like him as well?

This is getting down voted but I don't think that's fair, it's not off topic. Trump said yesterday he's in favor of the death penalty for drug dealers because they are responsible for the death of others. It's a fair question to ask if there should be a distinction between street dealers and these doctors and executives.

Post by mikeash » Sun, Mar 11, 2018, 9:45 PM UTC

onetimemanytime wrote: post #9

1ris wrote: post #6

How many years would a street dealer have gotten? 40 years?

Not really comparable. The street dealer is not likely to get 40 years, although many may have gotten it (Assuming that a street dealer doesn't have 400 kilos of coke in his stash house. If he does, he's no street dealer) Also the doc loses his license and every single penny he has, between lawyers, years without being able to make a penny, and court fines. When you make a certain amount of money the trend is to live…

Post by mikeash » Sun, Mar 11, 2018, 9:53 PM UTC

onetimemanytime wrote: post #11

astura wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is getting down voted but I don't think that's fair, it's not off topic. Trump said yesterday he's in favor of the death penalty for drug dealers because they are responsible for the death of others. It's a fair question to ask if there should be a distinction between street dealers and these doctors and executives.

Trump is the President, not a King. This doc has been convicted and was sentenced based on the laws in place when he commuted the crimes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ex_post_facto_law and all. Also Trump cannot force the US Congress and Senate to pass the laws. Or the courts to judge that this is compatible with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cruel_and_unusual_punishment

Post by rhizome » Sun, Mar 11, 2018, 9:56 PM UTC

koolba wrote: post #16

dcposch wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That just means we should treat low level criminals humanely. Four years is plenty. The thing where decade plus sentences are fairly common is unique in the first world: only in America. It’s barbaric and embarrassing. The science is pretty unambiguous—a high likelihood of being caught and punished is a better deterrent than a low-probability but larger punishment. So I don’t want to see this doctor get a 40-year sen…

It’s really not. Four years is hardly a deterrent. It’s barely a slap on the wrist considering the number of lives destroyed by that plague. What’s makes this particularly heinous is the trust we place as a society in medical providers. The vast majority of people will take whatever medicine a doctor prescribes. No questions asked. Abusing that position of power is sickening.

Post by j_jochem » Sun, Mar 11, 2018, 10:00 PM UTC

dcposch wrote: post #7

1ris wrote: post #6

How many years would a street dealer have gotten? 40 years?

That just means we should treat low level criminals humanely. Four years is plenty. The thing where decade plus sentences are fairly common is unique in the first world: only in America. It’s barbaric and embarrassing. The science is pretty unambiguous—a high likelihood of being caught and punished is a better deterrent than a low-probability but larger punishment. So I don’t want to see this doctor get a 40-year sen…