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Literate Devops with Emacs Org-Mode (2014)

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Re: Literate Devops with Emacs Org-Mode (2014)

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Post by celeritascelery »

s4vi0r wrote: post #4
eadmund wrote: post #2

Org-mode & Magit really are the secret superpowers of modern emacs. And notmuch (full-text search of one's email, at least one order of magnitude faster than Gmail's!). And elfeed. And gnus. And dired. And pretty much everything else in emacs …

Is there some way to tell org exactly how I want it to spit out HTML? I was going to do my blog entirely with org-mode+org-publish, but it spits out a mess of HTML and also a small bit of js for some reason, so I'm just writing html directly myself now. I don't really find writing html myself all that annoying or anything, but it'd be nice if I could get org to generate really clean/simple HTML for me that I could th…

I know you can define CSS for how you want your export to look.

Re: Literate Devops with Emacs Org-Mode (2014)

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Post by taeric »

s4vi0r wrote: post #4
eadmund wrote: post #2

Org-mode & Magit really are the secret superpowers of modern emacs. And notmuch (full-text search of one's email, at least one order of magnitude faster than Gmail's!). And elfeed. And gnus. And dired. And pretty much everything else in emacs …

Is there some way to tell org exactly how I want it to spit out HTML? I was going to do my blog entirely with org-mode+org-publish, but it spits out a mess of HTML and also a small bit of js for some reason, so I'm just writing html directly myself now. I don't really find writing html myself all that annoying or anything, but it'd be nice if I could get org to generate really clean/simple HTML for me that I could th…

For the most part, just styling what it does isn't that tough. Similarly, you can tell it to spit out raw html for some fun. http://taeric.github.io/cube-permutations-1.html shows some silliness I did recently that includes styling up portions of the page.

Do you want to do something much more complicated/simple than this?

Re: Literate Devops with Emacs Org-Mode (2014)

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Post by Cacti »

eadmund wrote: post #2

Org-mode & Magit really are the secret superpowers of modern emacs. And notmuch (full-text search of one's email, at least one order of magnitude faster than Gmail's!). And elfeed. And gnus. And dired. And pretty much everything else in emacs …

Ive tried so many times to use gnus over the years, without luck. Any suggestions? Or links?

Re: Literate Devops with Emacs Org-Mode (2014)

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Post by [deleted] »

s4vi0r wrote: post #4
eadmund wrote: post #2

Org-mode & Magit really are the secret superpowers of modern emacs. And notmuch (full-text search of one's email, at least one order of magnitude faster than Gmail's!). And elfeed. And gnus. And dired. And pretty much everything else in emacs …

Is there some way to tell org exactly how I want it to spit out HTML? I was going to do my blog entirely with org-mode+org-publish, but it spits out a mess of HTML and also a small bit of js for some reason, so I'm just writing html directly myself now. I don't really find writing html myself all that annoying or anything, but it'd be nice if I could get org to generate really clean/simple HTML for me that I could th…

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Re: Literate Devops with Emacs Org-Mode (2014)

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Post by [deleted] »

s4vi0r wrote: post #4
eadmund wrote: post #2

Org-mode & Magit really are the secret superpowers of modern emacs. And notmuch (full-text search of one's email, at least one order of magnitude faster than Gmail's!). And elfeed. And gnus. And dired. And pretty much everything else in emacs …

Is there some way to tell org exactly how I want it to spit out HTML? I was going to do my blog entirely with org-mode+org-publish, but it spits out a mess of HTML and also a small bit of js for some reason, so I'm just writing html directly myself now. I don't really find writing html myself all that annoying or anything, but it'd be nice if I could get org to generate really clean/simple HTML for me that I could th…

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Re: Literate Devops with Emacs Org-Mode (2014)

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Post by icebraining »

btschaegg wrote: post #9
s4vi0r wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there some way to tell org exactly how I want it to spit out HTML? I was going to do my blog entirely with org-mode+org-publish, but it spits out a mess of HTML and also a small bit of js for some reason, so I'm just writing html directly myself now. I don't really find writing html myself all that annoying or anything, but it'd be nice if I could get org to generate really clean/simple HTML for me that I could th…

I've been looking for a similar solution - albeit not for HTML - but haven't found anything convincing so far. My train of thought was: It'd be great to have a a canonical XML format for org files to export to, since after that, you could essentially write XSLT transforms for almost any target format (even back to org-files to go full circle). In my case, that e.g. would be odt-files with branding for the organizatio…

Pandoc supports org-mode, so you should be able to use it to convert to DocBook, which you can then use with XLST (pandoc also supports HTML directly, by the way).

Re: Literate Devops with Emacs Org-Mode (2014)

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Post by nextos »

Cacti wrote: post #13
eadmund wrote: post #2

Org-mode & Magit really are the secret superpowers of modern emacs. And notmuch (full-text search of one's email, at least one order of magnitude faster than Gmail's!). And elfeed. And gnus. And dired. And pretty much everything else in emacs …

Ive tried so many times to use gnus over the years, without luck. Any suggestions? Or links?

IMHO Notmuch is easier and much simpler for most email workflows.

Re: Literate Devops with Emacs Org-Mode (2014)

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Post by ams6110 »

nextos wrote: post #17
Cacti wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ive tried so many times to use gnus over the years, without luck. Any suggestions? Or links?

IMHO Notmuch is easier and much simpler for most email workflows.

I agree. I have used gnus for email in the past, but when I discovered notmuch I moved to it immediately. Gnus can work if you want to treat your email like a News Group. Not a bad approach for email lists for example, where you are mostly a reader and occasionally a contributor, and you rarely need to find an old message that you've already read. But it's not quite the right model for the way most people deal with the rest of their email which is one-to-one or small group threads.

Notmuch is like the best of the newsgroup and email models. It has a great threaded view, tagging and filtering are easy, but it still makes everything very easy to find when you need it.

Also in combination with w3m it does a really good job at rendering HTML emails in plain text. Even those with tables and other layout tend to be rendered very accurately within the constraints of a fixed font plain text view.

Re: Literate Devops with Emacs Org-Mode (2014)

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Post by nine_k »

enitihas wrote: post #7
s4vi0r wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there some way to tell org exactly how I want it to spit out HTML? I was going to do my blog entirely with org-mode+org-publish, but it spits out a mess of HTML and also a small bit of js for some reason, so I'm just writing html directly myself now. I don't really find writing html myself all that annoying or anything, but it'd be nice if I could get org to generate really clean/simple HTML for me that I could th…

Not the ideal solution, but you can always use pandoc to convert org to html, or even markdown and configure the html generation from there.

Both html and markdown miss various org-specific features, like code fragments, drawers (imagine that one could want them to be able top open and close on click), task states, etc.

A general-purpose markup language like XML would be an ideal intermediate export format; XSLT can basically emit anything.

Re: Literate Devops with Emacs Org-Mode (2014)

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Post by nine_k »

matt_wulfeck wrote: post #3

This is a cool use of emacs, but containers have made the process of iterative development/system creation so much easier. If you have the deployment story down, it’s even easier. And the configs are much more portable.

The process demonstrated can be adapted to a wide variety of environments, containers or not.

It's mostly about making a literate program, executable on the spot, sort of like a Jupyter notebook, only for shell commands (or nearly anything, frankly).

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