TunnelBear Joins McAfee • Hacker News Board

Re: TunnelBear Joins McAfee

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Post by Angostura » Fri, Mar 09, 2018, 2:26 PM UTC

mrweasel wrote: post #4

I don't get this kind of purchases. If McAfee intends to just let TunnelBear be TunnelBear, then what they're after must the business (as in the profit). In that case would there be more business sense in not selling, from the TunnelBear perspective? Edit: Also TunnelBear isn't joining McAfee, or I doubt that they are. McAfee BOUGHT them. Joining implies that you merged the two businesses with no money changing hands…

The last time I joined a team or a company, I didn't merge with them.

Re: TunnelBear Joins McAfee

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Post by nugi » Fri, Mar 09, 2018, 2:29 PM UTC

Whelp, that singlehandedly kills any credibility tunnerlbear had in my mind. I hope the buyout was worth it guys. The exact market for services like tunnelbear are the same ones that avoid the likes of mcafee (the company) like the plauge. I can see them jumping like rats from a burning ship. They should just find a new name at this point, ala comcast, blackwater, etc. Even their literal namesake disses them publicly.

Re: TunnelBear Joins McAfee

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Post by Arubis » Fri, Mar 09, 2018, 2:30 PM UTC

Nice while it lasted. Any alternative recommendations for less tech-oriented folks? TunnelBear has been what I pointed friends and relations towards historically.

Re: TunnelBear Joins McAfee

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Post by shomyo » Fri, Mar 09, 2018, 2:38 PM UTC

RIP :/

Re: TunnelBear Joins McAfee

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Post by badprose » Fri, Mar 09, 2018, 2:40 PM UTC

I don't see how this purchase changes anything. How was "TunnelBear: an independent VPN provider" ever any more trustworthy than "TunnelBear: A service from McAffee"?

In both cases, I have no idea what they're actually doing with my info.

Re: TunnelBear Joins McAfee

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Post by gk1 » Fri, Mar 09, 2018, 2:44 PM UTC

mrweasel wrote: post #4

I don't get this kind of purchases. If McAfee intends to just let TunnelBear be TunnelBear, then what they're after must the business (as in the profit). In that case would there be more business sense in not selling, from the TunnelBear perspective? Edit: Also TunnelBear isn't joining McAfee, or I doubt that they are. McAfee BOUGHT them. Joining implies that you merged the two businesses with no money changing hands…

> Joining implies that you merged the two businesses with no money changing hands.

Not at all. Saying you "joined" a company is often used as a less transactional (that is, warm and fuzzy, not cold and financial) way of saying you were acquired.

Re: TunnelBear Joins McAfee

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Post by tssva » Fri, Mar 09, 2018, 2:44 PM UTC

rasengan wrote: post #6

This is the opposite of privacy and you should be ashamed. You sold all of your customers’ info to Intel/McAfee at a price.

They have a very detailed and plainly written privacy policy which details what information is gathered and how it is used. If their customers put a premium on privacy they should have read the privacy policy prior to using the service and understood Tunnelbear's obligations under it. As long as Tunnelbear has met them they have nothing to be ashamed of. It even addresses the possibility of being acquired and the impact that may have regarding the data they have collected.

"If our organization structure changes (i.e we undergo a restructuring or are acquired), we may need to migrate your Personal Information to a third party related to a business transaction, but, we will ensure that such a third party has entered into an agreement under which the use of your Personal Information is only related to purposes necessary for the transaction."

Re: TunnelBear Joins McAfee

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Post by Daviey » Fri, Mar 09, 2018, 2:46 PM UTC

PuffinBlue wrote: post #2

I'll save you the trouble of ctrl+f'ing: "We’d like to thank you for being part of the journey so far, and we look forward to sharing more about our plans in the coming weeks." https://ourincrediblejourney.tumblr.com/

Only opened the article to find information on their journey.. looks like they haven't finished their trip yet.

Re: TunnelBear Joins McAfee

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Post by bitxbitxbitcoin » Fri, Mar 09, 2018, 2:51 PM UTC

Arubis wrote: post #13

Nice while it lasted. Any alternative recommendations for less tech-oriented folks? TunnelBear has been what I pointed friends and relations towards historically.

Private Internet Access is my suggestion given their support of EFF, FFTF, Creative Commons, as well as the greater FOSS community.

Full disclosure: I work at Private Internet Access.

Re: TunnelBear Joins McAfee

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Post by emdowling » Fri, Mar 09, 2018, 2:51 PM UTC

Arubis wrote: post #13

Nice while it lasted. Any alternative recommendations for less tech-oriented folks? TunnelBear has been what I pointed friends and relations towards historically.

These guys are great: https://encrypt.me

I used them when I was freelancing and working on public wifi. Super easy to use and reliable.