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The spread of true and false news online

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Re: The spread of true and false news online

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At some point will the online populace be inoculated from "new surprising info" that isn't verified? ie, distrust all news until there's corroboration?

No. Humans tend to be emotional beings who rationalize whatever preserves their ego and confirms preexisting biases, and the opinions of friends and peers matters more to most people than fact checking by independent, objective sources.

Re: The spread of true and false news online

#12
post #3

> It took the truth about six times as long as falsehood to reach 1500 people and 20 times as long as falsehood to reach a cascade depth of 10. As the truth never diffused beyond a depth of 10, we saw that falsehood reached a depth of 19 nearly 10 times faster than the truth reached a depth of 10 The study attributes most of that force multiplier to novelty and surprise, where falsehood will always have an advantage;…

Here's an antidote: https://www.theknifemedia.com/

Thanks for the link.

Re: The spread of true and false news online

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post #3

> It took the truth about six times as long as falsehood to reach 1500 people and 20 times as long as falsehood to reach a cascade depth of 10. As the truth never diffused beyond a depth of 10, we saw that falsehood reached a depth of 19 nearly 10 times faster than the truth reached a depth of 10 The study attributes most of that force multiplier to novelty and surprise, where falsehood will always have an advantage;…

Here's an antidote: https://www.theknifemedia.com/

Pseudo-objectivity with pretty analytics that just happens to have a glaring selection bias and where everything is neatly explained by self-appointed analytical experts. In other words, just like existing media but with catchier design.

Re: The spread of true and false news online

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Nothing has changed over the centuries but the mechanisms by which propaganda is spread. The term "fake news" is itself propaganda, playing to people's innate sense that they are not, in fact, irrational and emotional beings, and are somehow better than the "morons" who fall for false stories.

The sad truth is that even the smartest of us are, in some degree, intellectually lazy and hold at least one false belief. The only thing that has increased over the last decades is the average westerner's desire to force those beliefs upon their fellow citizens.

Re: The spread of true and false news online

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post #3

> It took the truth about six times as long as falsehood to reach 1500 people and 20 times as long as falsehood to reach a cascade depth of 10. As the truth never diffused beyond a depth of 10, we saw that falsehood reached a depth of 19 nearly 10 times faster than the truth reached a depth of 10 The study attributes most of that force multiplier to novelty and surprise, where falsehood will always have an advantage;…

Here's an antidote: https://www.theknifemedia.com/

Looks good, but in the end, this is what I tell people.

"The media you trust is the most dangerous media of all."

In other words, don't ever turn off your brain and just accept what you are being told. Inevitably the only solution is to question it all and get input from multiple sources.

Re: The spread of true and false news online

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post #3

> It took the truth about six times as long as falsehood to reach 1500 people and 20 times as long as falsehood to reach a cascade depth of 10. As the truth never diffused beyond a depth of 10, we saw that falsehood reached a depth of 19 nearly 10 times faster than the truth reached a depth of 10 The study attributes most of that force multiplier to novelty and surprise, where falsehood will always have an advantage;…

Here's an antidote: https://www.theknifemedia.com/

nice site, but i'll never understand the thinking behind "let's ask if they want to receive notifications immediately upon first page-hit"

does anyone actually click 'yes' to that prompt?

Re: The spread of true and false news online

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here's an antidote: https://www.theknifemedia.com/

Pseudo-objectivity with pretty analytics that just happens to have a glaring selection bias and where everything is neatly explained by self-appointed analytical experts. In other words, just like existing media but with catchier design.

Pseudo-objectivity

They are at least directly addressing the mechanism of emotive language discussed in Manufacturing Consent. It looks to me, like they're doing a much better than average job at that.

glaring selection bias

Pretty much a part of the human condition. At least they're trying.

Re: The spread of true and false news online

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post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here's an antidote: https://www.theknifemedia.com/

nice site, but i'll never understand the thinking behind "let's ask if they want to receive notifications immediately upon first page-hit" does anyone actually click 'yes' to that prompt?

Notifications on websites are just the pop-ups of 2018.

Re: The spread of true and false news online

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Nothing has changed over the centuries but the mechanisms by which propaganda is spread. The term "fake news" is itself propaganda, playing to people's innate sense that they are not, in fact, irrational and emotional beings, and are somehow better than the "morons" who fall for false stories. The sad truth is that even the smartest of us are, in some degree, intellectually lazy and hold at least one false belief. Th…

"Nothing has changed over the centuries but the mechanisms by which propaganda is spread."

This is true. We now have digital platforms which reward propaganda by spreading it faster.

The speed and spread of false information has exponentially increased because social media distorts media coverage, rewarding sensational, emotionally charged content with greater reach in people's timelines and feeds.

Rumors used to spread from person to person, but the algorithms are giving them an edge. The algorithms are not neutral. They are designed to favor clickbait.

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