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Operation Elop: The final years of Nokia’s mobile phones
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#12> Elop combined two different CEOs cardinal blunders: The Osborne and Ratner Effects. > In 1983, the computer manufacturer Osborne announced several new models of computers, which they said would be launched in sales after one year. In the meanwhile, sales of the old models plummeted because the consumers were waiting for the new models. Osborne ended up in bankruptcy. Gerard Ratner, on the other hand, was the CEO of…
I never did figure out what was supposed to be wrong with MeeGo/Maemo. Always thought it had a lot of potential and some great UX ideas that were nowhere else.
Did you ever try using it? It was awkward to use and slow. Even on the hardware that was specifically designed for.
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#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
I never did figure out what was supposed to be wrong with MeeGo/Maemo. Always thought it had a lot of potential and some great UX ideas that were nowhere else.
Did you ever try using it? It was awkward to use and slow. Even on the hardware that was specifically designed for.
Was it bad enough to abandon all investments made into its development and jump to the less successful competing platform instead of incrementally improving MeeGo/Maemo?
Re: Operation Elop: The final years of Nokia’s mobile phones
#14Upvote if you knew immediately where this "CEO from Microsoft" is headed.
> On 16 March 2016, Australia's largest telecommunications provider Telstra announced, controversially, that Elop would be joining the company in a newly created position as Group Executive Technology, Innovation and Strategy.[72][73][74] Since joining Telstra, the company's share price has dropped by around one third.
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#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
Did you ever try using it? It was awkward to use and slow. Even on the hardware that was specifically designed for.
Was it bad enough to abandon all investments made into its development and jump to the less successful competing platform instead of incrementally improving MeeGo/Maemo?
Yes. It suffered from the same problem as all of Nokia's home grown software. The performance was shockingly bad - in an era of jelly scrolling, it was still using janky scroll-bars.
It was clearly made by disparate teams who didn't talk to each other. The design language was all over the place, the radio performance inadequate, and there was no sensible way to develop or release apps for it.
Nokia made brilliant firmware, and amazing hardware. But they simply didn't have the ability to design beautiful, usable software.
Personally, I'd have gone with Android. But you don't hire a Microsoft guy for anything other than getting in bed with MS.
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#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
I never did figure out what was supposed to be wrong with MeeGo/Maemo. Always thought it had a lot of potential and some great UX ideas that were nowhere else.
Did you ever try using it? It was awkward to use and slow. Even on the hardware that was specifically designed for.
I don't have experience with Maemo, but Meego was not particularly slow or awkward beyond being a young, immature mobile OS. In fact my N9 was remarkably stable considering the circumstances of its birth. And in fact I know several non-tech people who really liked their N9's, minimal ecosystem notwithstanding, so it had potential beyond a hardcore geek audience.
Re: Operation Elop: The final years of Nokia’s mobile phones
#17> Elop combined two different CEOs cardinal blunders: The Osborne and Ratner Effects. > In 1983, the computer manufacturer Osborne announced several new models of computers, which they said would be launched in sales after one year. In the meanwhile, sales of the old models plummeted because the consumers were waiting for the new models. Osborne ended up in bankruptcy. Gerard Ratner, on the other hand, was the CEO of…
I never did figure out what was supposed to be wrong with MeeGo/Maemo. Always thought it had a lot of potential and some great UX ideas that were nowhere else.
I'm not sure it actually worked that well, but in any event it shipped way too late.
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#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
I never did figure out what was supposed to be wrong with MeeGo/Maemo. Always thought it had a lot of potential and some great UX ideas that were nowhere else.
Did you ever try using it? It was awkward to use and slow. Even on the hardware that was specifically designed for.
I had an N9. It was snappier than your average Android phone.
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
Was it bad enough to abandon all investments made into its development and jump to the less successful competing platform instead of incrementally improving MeeGo/Maemo?
Yes. It suffered from the same problem as all of Nokia's home grown software. The performance was shockingly bad - in an era of jelly scrolling, it was still using janky scroll-bars. It was clearly made by disparate teams who didn't talk to each other. The design language was all over the place, the radio performance inadequate, and there was no sensible way to develop or release apps for it. Nokia made brilliant fir…
Just to clarify, which device did you have?
I had a N9, and I completely agree with the person above. The funniest thing is that when I got the phone and showed it to a friend who had just received the most recent Nexus at the time, the first thing he did was just scrolling, switching between apps and admiring how smooth everything was. The illusion faded quickly when you tried to open a web page with any javascript.
As far as I know, the code behind the scenes and especially the app store were a mess, but it didn't show to the user. And of course every app could access everything.
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#20Actually looking forward to getting a new Nokia w/Android soon now. :-)
Same. I’m probably going to get a Nokia 6 2018. Built like a tank and it’s quite competitive performance wise.