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Re: Ian Knot

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Post by mkl »

weinzierl wrote: post #4
weaksauce wrote: post #3

The secure version of this is much better and the one I use all the time. Doesn't get stuck and is quick to tie and untie. https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/secureknot.htm

Talking about other secure knots wouldn't be complete without mentioning the Granny Knot and what Ian says about the secure knot: > NOTE: For normal activities, the Ian Knot or other standard knots should be quite secure. I believe that many people seek more secure knots because they are, without realizing, tying their shoelaces with an un-balanced "Granny Knot". Please see my Granny Knot page that discusses this in…

I think this is right. In ten years of use, the handful of times the plain Ian Knot has come undone on me were from stepping on and end or similar - it's never come undone without some external force, and even then it's usually fine. I just checked and I'm not doing the Granny Knot version.

Re: Ian Knot

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Post by Declanomous »

ollyfg wrote: post #8
Declanomous wrote: post #6

So, having tried this method in the past, and revisited this again just now, I don't thing it is actually faster. The set up requires each hand to independently form a loop with an opposite twist without the benefit of the other hand to brace the rest of the shoelace against. The gif of the knot does not show the set up, which is kind of unfair to the standard knot since that part is fundamentally baked-in to the sta…

Interesting! I've switched to using Ian's knot, and have found it to be both faster to tie and easier to set up. I think once you work out how to 'pick up' the laces in the right way, so that they are already in the correct starting position, it gets a lot faster/simpler to think about. Of course, I haven't been in your shoes - my laces are all the round type and I haven't tried it with flat ones. To each their own!

I like flat laces a lot because they seem to distribute the force a lot better than round styles. I like my shoes to be fairly minimalist, I don't like overly padded or heavy shoes, and round styles seem to put a lot more pressure on the top of my foot.

The oval style with the sharp edges has a lot of the benefits of the flat style, but is more universally compatible. The flat ones don't always move well in round eyelets, they work better with loops in my experience.

The completely flat style doesn't tie well if one of the laces is twisted though. I think it's a great option for athletic shoes though, where you are more likely to care about a particular level of give, etc, and when you don't want your shoes to become untied. The round style is cheaper, and if you don't notice the difference it's probably a more versatile shoelace.

Plus you can do fancy knots with the round style.

Re: Ian Knot

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Post by ilozinski »

My name is also Ian and I have invented my own shoe-tying method independently from Ian Fleggen's method. I believe it's faster than the "Ian Knot". Once I come up with a name for it, I will publish it online.

Taking name suggestions...

Re: Ian Knot

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Post by mrspeaker »

ilozinski wrote: post #13

My name is also Ian and I have invented my own shoe-tying method independently from Ian Fleggen's method. I believe it's faster than the "Ian Knot". Once I come up with a name for it, I will publish it online. Taking name suggestions...

Ianest Knot. The most Ian a knot can be.

Re: Ian Knot

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Post by defertoreptar »

weaksauce wrote: post #3

The secure version of this is much better and the one I use all the time. Doesn't get stuck and is quick to tie and untie. https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/secureknot.htm

Seconded. Been using it for years. So long as you avoid the granny variation, it will not come undone.

Re: Ian Knot

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Post by jonesetc »

Hah, I worked in a grocery store part of my time and college and this is very similar to the way I was taught to tie plastic grocery bags shut. Sub the two handles of the bag for these loops, and repeat it a second time after pulling through. Extremely useful for people on bike.

Practically impossible for the knot to come undone and after 5 minutes of practice you can do it in literally 1-2 seconds.

Re: Ian Knot

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Post by [deleted] »

mrspeaker wrote: post #14
ilozinski wrote: post #13

My name is also Ian and I have invented my own shoe-tying method independently from Ian Fleggen's method. I believe it's faster than the "Ian Knot". Once I come up with a name for it, I will publish it online. Taking name suggestions...

Ianest Knot. The most Ian a knot can be.

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Re: Ian Knot

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Post by hamandcheese »

Declanomous wrote: post #6

So, having tried this method in the past, and revisited this again just now, I don't thing it is actually faster. The set up requires each hand to independently form a loop with an opposite twist without the benefit of the other hand to brace the rest of the shoelace against. The gif of the knot does not show the set up, which is kind of unfair to the standard knot since that part is fundamentally baked-in to the sta…

I’m having difficulty articulating exactly how, but you definitely don’t need to have round laces for it to work. You can form the loops by other means — I wind the left lace around my thumb and forefinger to create one loop, and then those fingers are ready to grab the other loop which usually just falls in to place.

Re: Ian Knot

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Post by thatswrong0 »

ilozinski wrote: post #13

My name is also Ian and I have invented my own shoe-tying method independently from Ian Fleggen's method. I believe it's faster than the "Ian Knot". Once I come up with a name for it, I will publish it online. Taking name suggestions...

The Ia-knot

Re: Ian Knot

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Post by mjlee »

I've always been impressed by the lasting quality of this site. It's extremely simple (the only javascript is for ads), easy to navigate, fast to load and ranks 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 5th in Google for "shoe knot" and "shoelace knot".
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