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The top 1% of the US makes $480k or more in adjusted gross income

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Re: The top 1% of the US makes $480k or more in adjusted gross income

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post #5

Is this household or individual? I only see "tax return" mentioned, so it could be a mix of both. A common Silicon Valley working couple, 10+ years into their careers are likely to be in the 1% if you roll in things like bonuses and stock/option grants. And at the same time you have people claiming to be middle class with incomes over $250K.

You don't feel a 250K annual salary is middle class? That is a king's ransom in most of the country.

They didn't say that, they said that there are people that make that much that claim they are middle class there.

Re: The top 1% of the US makes $480k or more in adjusted gross income

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post #5

Is this household or individual? I only see "tax return" mentioned, so it could be a mix of both. A common Silicon Valley working couple, 10+ years into their careers are likely to be in the 1% if you roll in things like bonuses and stock/option grants. And at the same time you have people claiming to be middle class with incomes over $250K.

You don't feel a 250K annual salary is middle class? That is a king's ransom in most of the country.

I suspect they meant 250K is too high to be middle class.

Re: The top 1% of the US makes $480k or more in adjusted gross income

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post #9

Consider four different people: 1. a lawyer who works 100 hours/week flirting with a heart attack and earns $480,930 2. a small business owner who sells their plumbing co after 4 decades and earns $480,930 from the sale, but never broke six figures before 3. a retiree who sits on the couch 24/7 and earns $480,930 in passive dividends 4. a professional of some kind who works 20 hours/week in a low stress job and earns…

The funny thing about that is like the press, the IRS does not care about anything you said either

Re: The top 1% of the US makes $480k or more in adjusted gross income

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post #9

Consider four different people: 1. a lawyer who works 100 hours/week flirting with a heart attack and earns $480,930 2. a small business owner who sells their plumbing co after 4 decades and earns $480,930 from the sale, but never broke six figures before 3. a retiree who sits on the couch 24/7 and earns $480,930 in passive dividends 4. a professional of some kind who works 20 hours/week in a low stress job and earns…

Pray tell, what kind of low stress job lets you earn $500k/year with 20 hours/week? (Actual job, please, not "4-hour workweek" style passive investment income.)

Re: The top 1% of the US makes $480k or more in adjusted gross income

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post #9

Consider four different people: 1. a lawyer who works 100 hours/week flirting with a heart attack and earns $480,930 2. a small business owner who sells their plumbing co after 4 decades and earns $480,930 from the sale, but never broke six figures before 3. a retiree who sits on the couch 24/7 and earns $480,930 in passive dividends 4. a professional of some kind who works 20 hours/week in a low stress job and earns…

Pray tell, what kind of low stress job lets you earn $500k/year with 20 hours/week? (Actual job, please, not "4-hour workweek" style passive investment income.)

Managing Director at Hedge Funds. They just show up to collect the money.

Re: The top 1% of the US makes $480k or more in adjusted gross income

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post #9

Consider four different people: 1. a lawyer who works 100 hours/week flirting with a heart attack and earns $480,930 2. a small business owner who sells their plumbing co after 4 decades and earns $480,930 from the sale, but never broke six figures before 3. a retiree who sits on the couch 24/7 and earns $480,930 in passive dividends 4. a professional of some kind who works 20 hours/week in a low stress job and earns…

The funny thing about that is like the press, the IRS does not care about anything you said either

With passthrough entities they do now...

Re: The top 1% of the US makes $480k or more in adjusted gross income

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post #5

Is this household or individual? I only see "tax return" mentioned, so it could be a mix of both. A common Silicon Valley working couple, 10+ years into their careers are likely to be in the 1% if you roll in things like bonuses and stock/option grants. And at the same time you have people claiming to be middle class with incomes over $250K.

You don't feel a 250K annual salary is middle class? That is a king's ransom in most of the country.

Certainly is, however you have to look at outgoings too. It's entirely possible a retiree on $50k who owns a 3 bed house in SF is better off than someone on $150k who pays $60k a year in rent for the exact same house.

Re: The top 1% of the US makes $480k or more in adjusted gross income

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pray tell, what kind of low stress job lets you earn $500k/year with 20 hours/week? (Actual job, please, not "4-hour workweek" style passive investment income.)

Managing Director at Hedge Funds. They just show up to collect the money.

I'm sure there is more to the story than that.

Re: The top 1% of the US makes $480k or more in adjusted gross income

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post #9

Consider four different people: 1. a lawyer who works 100 hours/week flirting with a heart attack and earns $480,930 2. a small business owner who sells their plumbing co after 4 decades and earns $480,930 from the sale, but never broke six figures before 3. a retiree who sits on the couch 24/7 and earns $480,930 in passive dividends 4. a professional of some kind who works 20 hours/week in a low stress job and earns…

The funny thing about that is like the press, the IRS does not care about anything you said either

Sure they do. Retiree dividends are mostly taxed at a lower rate than W-2 income. A business sale may be a capital gain instead of income (I'm not sure).

For better or worse, taxes are applied differently to different kinds of income in the US.

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