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Leveraging Bitcoin to Solve Venezuela’s Hyperinflation

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Re: Leveraging Bitcoin to Solve Venezuela’s Hyperinflation

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post #8

"Imagine that you could flee Nazi Germany with all of your capital using nothing more than a password in your head" It's sad so many people know so few things about history. Fleeing with your money was not the problem.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reich_Flight_Tax

for people downvoting, what's the actual reason?

>Fleeing with your money was not the problem.

Re: Leveraging Bitcoin to Solve Venezuela’s Hyperinflation

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Why is this better, or different, than just helping Venezuelans obtain and use the USD that they already want [1]? If it's a matter of government controls, the government will surely apply the same policy to BTC. I realize that he tried to address this in the article, but the reasons are contrived. And the "$5 wrench attack" simply won't stop when you only give up one wallet. [1] https://www.npr.org/sections/parallel…

How are they going to securely store those USD?

Re: Leveraging Bitcoin to Solve Venezuela’s Hyperinflation

#13
The author seems to be ignorant of some real facts related to Bitcoin availability. Lightning Network going live on Mainnet was against the advice of the LN developers who feel that it's not ready for prime-time usage and admit that the network cannot scale very large without some core difficulties being solved.

Additionally, the transaction fees have dropped not because of the introduction of LN or batched transactions or SegWit adoption, but because of the decline of Bitcoin transactions in general. Enough retailers have stopped accepting Bitcoin that there are fewer transactions and the fee-market pressure has lowered. Adding in an entire nation of people using Bitcoin multiple times a day, even with some of them on LN, will bring usage and fees to unseen-before levels.

Re: Leveraging Bitcoin to Solve Venezuela’s Hyperinflation

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post #8

"Imagine that you could flee Nazi Germany with all of your capital using nothing more than a password in your head" It's sad so many people know so few things about history. Fleeing with your money was not the problem.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reich_Flight_Tax

The main problem was that you couldn't sell your stuff, were forced to sell way below market price to Nazis [1] and countries wouldn't take you in [2] So many people didn't even have money because they couldn't sell at market prices or were murdered because they could not flee outside of Europe. Of those that could flee and sell their stuff, yes, those had to pay a lot of money to get away. But they were only able to get away legally after paying the "tax" and have a certificate.

The article makes it look like everything would have been fine if people could transfer money with a password in their head.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aryanization_(Nazism)

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS_St._Louis

Re: Leveraging Bitcoin to Solve Venezuela’s Hyperinflation

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The government will make Bitcoin the same way illegal as US dollars. Then they can't easily control Bitcoin. Then they will increase prison sentences for owning Bitcoins and Bitcoin apps. Then they will not be able to control that. Then they will monitor the internet for bitcoin transfers. Then they will outlaw any encryption. Then they will send out undercover police who try to pay with Bitcoin. etc. No government w…

You forget to add A and B scenarios to your conclusions....

A) Criminals/Bitcoins-enthusiasts/elites leave the country for the next unregulated paradise.

B) Criminals/Bitcoins-enthusiasts/elites overthrown the government due to strict policies regarding free trade.

The government can't enforce a laws by itself it needs his citizens to abide by those rules.

Re: Leveraging Bitcoin to Solve Venezuela’s Hyperinflation

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post #6

For crypto currencies, don't you need reliable electricity and internet first?

In theory the users just need semi-reliable internet access (the ability to broadcast transactions, and periodically check the balance of their wallet).

Semi-reliable internet only requires semi-reliable electricity. If you have neither of those, then crypto is pretty much useless.

Re: Leveraging Bitcoin to Solve Venezuela’s Hyperinflation

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lots of negativity here. i think it's a cool idea, and i hope he runs with this. if you're problem with bitcoin is "it's not quite perfect enough" then that's a bad reason to not attempt this

it has obvious benefits (and some cons) over the bolivar or a foreign fiat currency, but ya know, baby with the bathwater

i look forward to seeing where this goes

but i do agree about LN mainnet not being appropriate to use yet

Re: Leveraging Bitcoin to Solve Venezuela’s Hyperinflation

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The author seems to be ignorant of some real facts related to Bitcoin availability. Lightning Network going live on Mainnet was against the advice of the LN developers who feel that it's not ready for prime-time usage and admit that the network cannot scale very large without some core difficulties being solved. Additionally, the transaction fees have dropped not because of the introduction of LN or batched transacti…

> Enough retailers have stopped accepting Bitcoin that there are fewer transactions

That's one theory. Another theory is that bad actors were spamming the mempool and have stopped.

A quick look at historical mempool stats: https://dedi.jochen-hoenicke.de/queue/#1y

Makes it look far more likely certain people with an agenda were spamming the network.

Re: Leveraging Bitcoin to Solve Venezuela’s Hyperinflation

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Suite. Use the imaginary commodity that can't keep it's value to solve inflation because the currency is controlled by a tyrannical government. It's probably easier to overthrow their government than use a currency that will soon be outlawed.

Whether you like it or not, Bitcoin is here to stay.

"will soon be outlawed." >> You speak like it relies on any ones countries laws and a law would vaporize it. Anyone who read the SEC announcements, understand that even they seem to understand that.

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